What's the better film: Forever or Returns?

Started by Shan45, Fri, 17 Jul 2009, 21:36

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Returns or Forever

Batman Forever
7 (17.5%)
Batman Returns
33 (82.5%)

Total Members Voted: 40



Returns. I like Forever, but what kills the movie, IMO, are the horrible Two-Face, the lack of the detective Bats and the nipples... oh, I hate them >:(
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Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 04:21 #13 Last Edit: Wed, 29 Jul 2009, 04:23 by gordonblu
Returns. It actually takes the characters seriously enough while still having some fun with them. Every time I watch Forever I explode with rage over how much they disrespected Two-Face as a character (as well as every other character in the film). I wish Warners had let Sam Raimi take over when he campaigned for the assignment. Darkman, to me is what Two-Face could have been(just not as hyper). Oh well, the road not travelled and all...


By the way, did I mention that Two-Face is my favorite Batman villain? ;D
Why is there always someone who bring eggs and tomatoes to a speech?

i voted for returns even though i call forever my fave. i call forever my fave cause i can always enjoy it but if i'm depressed or slaphappy i have a hard time getting into returns or it only depresses me more which is bad lol.

Quote from: gordonblu on Wed, 29 Jul  2009, 04:21
By the way, did I mention that Two-Face is my favorite Batman villain? ;D
He's a great character, when handled correctly. He was well and truly BUTCHERED in Forever. Tommy Lee Jones had no idea about the character, he was basically playing the Joker. Not to mention re-flipping his coin... >:(


I seen Returns in the cinema. I enjoyed it enough though it didn't capture my imagination like the first one did. But I stll liked it. I was only 9, a good sequel to Batman. Didnt have much of an opinion then only that it wasnt as good as Batman to me.

The hype surrounding Forever was huge and I seen that in the cinema too. I came away disappointed. Disappointed at certain story plots, the tone of the film was a bit more immature than Returns. Tommy Lee Jones was trying to act like the Joker. His make-up (scar) was too perfect! And to top it off, he was white!! I knew Harvey Dent was black in the first one. This disappointed me. Carrey was perfect as the Riddler. Am only sorry Forever wasn't darker and we could have seen a scarier Carrey. Plus the climax was terrible......Overall I wasnt crazy about Forever, or Kilmer. Keaton was Batman in my eyes.

I watched Batman on VHS until it near wore out! lol I liked watching Returns now and again and only picked up Forever because it was going for cheap! (tho I did have the Forever poster in my bedroom for years!) lol

However! A couple of years ago I bought the special edition DVD of Forever. i think mainly for the special features. But I watched it on autum night as the sun was setting and I really enjoyed it! For the first time ever.

Now I can appreciate Forever as a different entry into the bat-film-family. Just like Begins and TDK.

iI will watch it now and again. i admit Two-Face in it still annoys me, as does Carrey at times. But I think Kilmer was a decent Bruce Wayne, and isnt Chase so sexy in this movie!!

I do agree Returns goes back to the older movies of the 40's and 50's with the sets and stuff. Other things annoy me about Returns. Such as the lack of motivation for the Peguin. Sometimes I wonder where is the story really going!? I feel the plot in Returns is very weak, as much as I like the characters sets and costumes.

But overall I prefer Returns and think its a better film!

So four people have given Forever as their favourite between the two... >:(

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Quote from: johnnygobbs on Wed, 29 Jul  2009, 19:41
So four people have given Forever as their favourite between the two... >:(



uh yeah its called a right to an opinion. want me to kick you in the nuts?

Quote from: johnnygobbs on Wed, 29 Jul  2009, 19:41So four people have given Forever as their favourite between the two... >:(
Some people think Van Halen was better with Hagar.  New Coke probably had some fans.  Some people favor Gobots over Transformers.  George Lazenby always gets 10 or 20 votes in any "Best Bond" poll.

Let's face it, some people just have stupid opinions.