Joker's Hair

[Dark Knight Detective]

He couldn't escape death in Bat89. No way in hell given that scenario! 

I'm sure he died, but then again, I have second thoughts on this matter.

[The Dark Knight]

Are you insane? Joker is flat out dead. He fell from the top of the Cathedral to the bottom.

Though I suppose if Burton brought in some monster men or something later down the line (which wouldn't really be out of place in his Batman universe), they could have resurrected his corpse and had a zombie Joker.

I recall a draft or something for Returns stated the Joker's body had gone missing...so....let your imagination wander. 

[The Joker]

He couldn't escape death in Bat89. No way in hell given that scenario! 
Good post re: the hair as well.

I was really referring to the comic book Joker in the DCU, which was why I threw in that comment about the "Death in the Family" arc. 

But yeah, I suppose audiences don't/wouldnt find the villain simply being thrown back into jail/prison, or in Batman's case, Arkham over and over again particularly satisfying.

[The Joker]

Are you insane? Joker is flat out dead. He fell from the top of the Cathedral to the bottom.

Though I suppose if Burton brought in some monster men or something later down the line (which wouldn't really be out of place in his Batman universe), they could have resurrected his corpse and had a zombie Joker.

You know, I have a coffee table sized Batman book published in the early 1990's (around 1992 Batman Returns) titled, "Batmania", and there is indeed a section in the book that has Peters commenting about Nicholson returning as the Joker. Possibly for Batman III.

Needless to say, I've always wondered exactly HOW Warner Bros. and company were going to go about resurrecting him? Zombie Joker would be an option I suppose, but then again it would seem really dark to go with that direction, which was sincerely not the direction WB wanted to go with following Batman Returns.

The whole clone idea might have worked I suppose. I remember that's basically how he was going to be brought back from the dead in the once proposed "Superman vs Batman" film.

Personally, I would have been fine with the hallucination idea brought on by the Scarecrow's fear gas. Sure, it would have been a glorified cameo, but at the same time it would have given Jack the opportunity to reprise a role that he obviously has alot of affection for, and I would have LOVED to have seen that.

I recall a draft or something for Returns stated the Joker's body had gone missing...so....let your imagination wander. 

I remember talk of "The Joker's body has gone missing!" or something to that effect supposedly being the headline on one of the newspapers in "Batman Returns", but I think it was quickly proved as false.

[Dark Knight Detective]

Are you insane? Joker is flat out dead. He fell from the top of the Cathedral to the bottom.

Though I suppose if Burton brought in some monster men or something later down the line (which wouldn't really be out of place in his Batman universe), they could have resurrected his corpse and had a zombie Joker.

I recall a draft or something for Returns stated the Joker's body had gone missing...so....let your imagination wander. 

Insane, am I?

The whole, "second thoughts", statement made by me was partially an inside joke, which was referring to this topic:

http://www.batmanmovieonline.com/forum/index.php?topic=638.0

You know, I have a coffee table sized Batman book published in the early 1990's (around 1992 Batman Returns) titled, "Batmania", and there is indeed a section in the book that has Peters commenting about Nicholson returning as the Joker. Possibly for Batman III.

Yes, this was the piece of information I was thinking about when I mentioned having second thoughts of what could have happened to the Joker (had there been a third Burton Batman film), The Dark Knight. Do you understand what I mean, now?

[The Joker]

Yes, this was the piece of information I was thinking about when I mentioned having second thoughts of what could have happened to the Joker (had there been a third Burton Batman film), The Dark Knight.

Oh really? Nice.

Do you understand what I mean, now?

Sure, it's cleared up now. Despite the vagueness at first.   

[Azrael]

Are you insane? Joker is flat out dead. He fell from the top of the Cathedral to the bottom.

Though I suppose if Burton brought in some monster men or something later down the line (which wouldn't really be out of place in his Batman universe), they could have resurrected his corpse and had a zombie Joker.

I recall a draft or something for Returns stated the Joker's body had gone missing...so....let your imagination wander. 

Maybe his infamous line ("have you ever danced with the Devil") came from personal experience and Jack Napier indeed had sold his soul in exchange for occult powers that helped him raise his position in the underworld hierarchy (led by Grissom), survive the Axis chemical bath, get rid of Grissom and other mafia sub-bosses to become the leader with great ease, then evade a barrage of rockets that Batman fired from the Batwing, and finally... survive a fall from a very tall belfry. After all, Jack Nicholson also played in The Witches of Eastwick at around the same time   Joker the Warlock???

Hey, I'm joking!   But in a fantasy universe where supernatural things do happen (remember Catwoman?) and a villain as evil and mad as the Joker (played by Jack Nicholson), this is likely

[Dark Knight Detective]

Are you insane? Joker is flat out dead. He fell from the top of the Cathedral to the bottom.

Though I suppose if Burton brought in some monster men or something later down the line (which wouldn't really be out of place in his Batman universe), they could have resurrected his corpse and had a zombie Joker.

I recall a draft or something for Returns stated the Joker's body had gone missing...so....let your imagination wander. 

Maybe his infamous line ("have you ever danced with the Devil") came from personal experience and Jack Napier indeed had sold his soul in exchange for occult powers that helped him raise his position in the underworld hierarchy (led by Grissom), survive the Axis chemical bath, get rid of Grissom and other mafia sub-bosses to become the leader with great ease, then evade a barrage of rockets that Batman fired from the Batwing, and finally... survive a fall from a very tall belfry. After all, Jack Nicholson also played in The Witches of Eastwick at around the same time   Joker the Warlock???

Hey, I'm joking!   But in a fantasy universe where supernatural things do happen (remember Catwoman?) and a villain as evil and mad as the Joker (played by Jack Nicholson), this is likely

LOL

Great post, Silenig. What's funny is that while I find it to be quite hilarious (esp. with the Joker Warlock), it's actually quite truthful.

[The Dark Knight]

Zombie Joker would be an option I suppose, but then again it would seem really dark to go with that direction, which was sincerely not the direction WB wanted to go with following Batman Returns.

Personally, I would have been fine with the hallucination idea brought on by the Scarecrow's fear gas. Sure, it would have been a glorified cameo, but at the same time it would have given Jack the opportunity to reprise a role that he obviously has alot of affection for, and I would have LOVED to have seen that.

The zombie thing would be really dark in Burton's hands. With him being a horror fan as well. I'd be for it I guess. I recall they did something like this for the Joker in the 'The Batman vs. Dracula'.

I agree though, the fear gas hallucination would be better. Easier to explain and believe. But the 'zombie' thing could have allowed the character to return as a 'living and breathing' villain.

[The Joker]

I agree though, the fear gas hallucination would be better. Easier to explain and believe. But the 'zombie' thing could have allowed the character to return as a 'living and breathing' villain.

I agree as well. The zombie angle would have really worked well under Burton's direction, and though I tend to lean toward the fear gas hallucination scenario more (especially if the Scarecrow and Harley Quinn were already locked down), I wouldnt have mind seeing the Joker return as a actual undead villain as well.

It likely would have meant more screen time for Jack in his reprisal of the Joker, and that would have been more than fine with me.