Why was the emblem in '89 different than the poster?

Started by phantom stranger, Fri, 10 Apr 2009, 04:43

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Quote from: Joker81 on Sun, 12 Apr  2009, 17:33
Where as the returns one is big and chunky, kind of like a kids toy, you would get in a mcdonals meal as merchandise for the film lol its just a bit kiddie to me.

Chunky? I'd say that the Returns emblem is actually sleeker than the 89 emblem. And, if anything, the insignia on the first Clooney suit looks like a kid's meal toy. :P

I agree, I never got into the other emblems (forever/b&r). The first one is very "movie" iconic to me because of the extra scallops or legs on the bat itself, which many fans questioned at the time. I love it.

The Returns is gorgeous and sleek and found it very appropriate for the new sleek styled suit and cowl in Returns.

They're both great.
I favor the gritty 89 style more only because my personality is more gritty in itself, lol, but I do have a lot of love for the Returns style too.
Great emblems. Great suits. Great friggin' movies.

I'm gonna watch em again today.  :)
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Sun, 12 Apr 2009, 18:55 #22 Last Edit: Sun, 12 Apr 2009, 18:58 by Dark Knight Detective
Quote from: Batnar on Sun, 12 Apr  2009, 18:47
I agree, I never got into the other emblems.

The emblem on the Panther Suit (Val Kilmer's) was cool. But after seeing the others, I got the thought of, "Oh my God, an important piece of Batman's history in live action films has just been lost."

Hopefully, the elipse will be utilized in the new film (& it better not be muted).

Yeah you know, come to think of it, one of the prominent reasons why I never got too involved with the other emblems outside the 89 and Returns films, was because I don't even remember what they looked like.

I mean, I know what they look like now, but back when the film came out, it wasn't something that was imprinted on my brain. I came out a little bit hurt, is all I can remember.  :P
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Btw.. to answer the question why the 89 emblem looked different than the poster, my idea is that they probably knew that making the poster based on the emblem used on the film, might cause some fandom controversy over it, but they knew that the emblem looked great on the suit, so it was more of a strategic move to just create a poster depicting the classic and iconic emblem we all know and love, while totally reeling us in the film with a unique film used emblem.

Just a guess.  :)

I really loved that it looked different. It sent a message across that this is a Batman in an alternate reality, making things a bit unpredictable which I completely favor.
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Sun, 12 Apr 2009, 19:19 #25 Last Edit: Sun, 12 Apr 2009, 19:23 by Dark Knight Detective
Quote from: Batnar on Sun, 12 Apr  2009, 19:09
Btw.. to answer the question why the 89 emblem looked different than the poster, my idea is that they probably knew that making the poster based on the emblem used on the film, might cause some fandom controversy over it, but they knew that the emblem looked great on the suit, so it was more of a strategic move to just create a poster depicting the classic and iconic emblem we all know and love, while totally reeling us in the film with a unique film used emblem.

I've read that Burton & co. didn't have the rights to incorporate the comics-styled insignia for the suit, which is how the suit's bat emblem pointy motif came to be. But by the time Returns came out, they had the rights to utilize it (even though it's sleeker than the way it looks in the comics post O'Neil/Adams).


Quote from: Batnar on Sun, 12 Apr  2009, 19:09
I really loved that it looked different. It sent a message across that this is a Batman in an alternate reality, making things a bit unpredictable which I completely favor.

Got to agree. I also love the fact that even though it's unique, it tries to stay true to the comics, rather than alienate the audience by looking so far-fetched.

I personally prefer the B89 emblem.
I remember getting a bootleg T-shirt from Spain with it on! It was the Summer of 1992 & yet they had shirts with the 89 logo!

I hope I still have it.  :-[

I can make them. My friend and I do silk screening. I will be making 2 of each Batman and Batman Returns for myself in the next month or so. =]
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blame Jon Peters for changing the 89 emblem....when he saw the poster for the movie ( Painted by Anton Furst) he said that the Bat logo looked like an open mouth...the extra points were added to the bottom of the emblem ( or "feet" as the design called it) to keep it from looking like a mouth.

Tue, 14 Apr 2009, 00:42 #29 Last Edit: Mon, 14 Feb 2011, 17:07 by THE BAT-MAN
These are images from The Killing Joke and The Dark Knight Returns that depict batman having the extra wing scallop tips on his emblem.  It is possible that Tim Burton was inspired by this.

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_TnAcMqiBxug/SY1SZ4El5mI/AAAAAAAAPsc/cfJ1oowzi-0/s400/File0041.jpg

http://lh4.ggpht.com/dbrar007/SIutaRFfxdI/AAAAAAAAAH4/kmTaiERcD7E/KillingJoke1a_thumb%5B5%5D.jpg


http://screenrant.com/wp-content/uploads/the-dark-knight-returns.jpg