References to the films in the comics

Started by Azrael, Sat, 4 Apr 2009, 07:49

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Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 11 Oct  2022, 09:32
From my POV the Furst shields are what really make it The Batmobile. They make it even more than just a cool looking car - it becomes a comprehensive piece of technology in every aspect. They're an extra layer of protection that the other cinematic vehicles lack, and honestly, while a Batmobile is armored by default, that doesn't seem enough when you're parking alone on the streets of a city like Gotham. To me it would still feel exposed. Batman doesn't take any chances, and the shields capture that idea.
It's surprising that it wasn't already part of the comics. I like the 60's Batmobile, but it's funny how many times villains steal it in the show. The cocoon is nice extra bit of security to prevent something like that from happening.

Quote from: BatmanFurst on Mon, 17 Oct  2022, 14:51
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 11 Oct  2022, 09:32
From my POV the Furst shields are what really make it The Batmobile. They make it even more than just a cool looking car - it becomes a comprehensive piece of technology in every aspect. They're an extra layer of protection that the other cinematic vehicles lack, and honestly, while a Batmobile is armored by default, that doesn't seem enough when you're parking alone on the streets of a city like Gotham. To me it would still feel exposed. Batman doesn't take any chances, and the shields capture that idea.
It's surprising that it wasn't already part of the comics. I like the 60's Batmobile, but it's funny how many times villains steal it in the show. The cocoon is nice extra bit of security to prevent something like that from happening.

Unless we have the Penguin obtaining the Batmobile blueprints to reverse engineer the shield mechanism, which really is a miraculous occurrence. Just like how the Batwing's targeting system somehow missed The Joker, the Batmobile's sabotage wasn't expected and thus was perfect for a framing operation. As per the novel, Penguin gets the plans from Max, who bribed the Batmobile's engineer. I can see the logic in that chain of events, but I'm not sure if it quite works for me. Bruce is seen repairing the car himself before the masked ball, and I prefer the idea he kept equipment construction strictly in house, no matter how unrealistic that may be.

So to my surprise there actually is an influence from Batman & Robin. In Shadow of the Bat 75 it's shown that Mr Freeze needs diamonds to power his suit. I don't recall this ever being mentioned before. This most definitely is an influence from B&R which had just come out.


Mon, 19 Dec 2022, 16:34 #73 Last Edit: Mon, 19 Dec 2022, 16:38 by BatmanFurst
It has been noted that Anton Furst created new designs for Gotham in the early 90's. However, while reading No Man's Land I noticed a couple instances of them using his original designs from the 89 film. These are from Legends of the Dark Knight #123 and Batman No Man's Land: Ground Zero respectively.





In Detective Comics 741 Robin finds a can of Joker venom and refers to it as Smilex. I think this is the first time I've seen a comic call it that, but I'm not sure.



In Batman: Book of Shadows you can see the Shreck's department store building in the skyline.


Quote from: BatmanFurst on Mon, 19 Dec  2022, 22:04
In Batman: Book of Shadows you can see the Shreck's department store building in the skyline.



This is interesting because there has been alot of people asking why Shreck hasnt been featured outside of Returns

Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Sat,  4 Feb  2023, 19:07This is interesting because there has been alot of people asking why Shreck hasnt been featured outside of Returns
I'm sort of one of them, tbh. Batman has a fairly impressive rogue's gallery. But conspicuously missing is a Lex Luthor-style corporate villain who can prey upon Gotham City in a different kind of way. Whether it's Shreck or a reimagined Rupert Thorne, I think a villain like that could be very effective in the Batman mythos.

I agree, and it's actually one of the reasons why I enjoy TDK Rises. The deconstruction on Bruce's life covers all facets, and that includes his business and personal wealth. Daggett's resources were simply used by Bane, but he nonetheless had a wide network. Using construction workers all over the city to install bombs is a logical way around large scale terrorism believability, along with their knowledge of city blueprints and the like. A respectable front business character who has that level of power but can't be easily pushed around would be most welcome. And a good contrast to the likes of Penguin and Black Mask.

The Red Triangle Gang appears in 'Parent Trap' (Robin V #15, August 2022). I won't post the scene in its entirety, because the fight lasts for several pages, but here's an extract. Note the umbrellas in the panel on the left, hinting at their connection to Cobblepot.



In Batman DOA (1999) Batman uses a wrist mounted grapnel which initially debuted in Batman Forever.