Michael Keaton's Bruce Wayne/Batman

Started by Dark Knight Detective, Fri, 16 Jan 2009, 10:52

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Fri, 6 Feb 2009, 23:33 #50 Last Edit: Sat, 7 Feb 2009, 00:50 by batass4880
Quote from: The Batman Returns on Fri,  6 Feb  2009, 23:31I agree. It seemed very out of place. Plus, he doesn't joke in the film, & he doesn't laugh as much as he should.

Exactly, that's what's supposed to make the character so dark.

I think Bale is largely pretty good in the role but, as others have said, he's really got to work on that Batman voice.  Batman doesn't talk like that all the time.  Can you imagine that guy trying to order a drink?  "GET ME A REFILLLLLLL."  "Sure, what'd you have?"  "I HAD PEPSI."  "Oh yeah, the machine's broken."  "HOW BOUT SPRITE?"  "... Uh, yeah.  No, no Sprite.  Fresca, perhaps?"  "WHAT ABOUT A BEEEEEEER?"  "Uh, sir?  This is Chuck E Cheese.  No beer here."

And so forth.  This is one of the few things that actually got worse from BB to TDK.  Everything else in TDK was pretty much a big improvement over the original.

Keaton, on the other hand, got it exactly right.  Maybe the best bit was when he cruised the Hall of Records or whatever that was to scope out the Penguin.  He talked to Alfred on the video thingy in a pretty convincing Batman voice.  It didn't sound like he had laryngitis or anything, he just naturally shifted his voice down an octave or two and threw in a mild growl.  But just a few minutes before, he'd spoken to Alfred in his normal Wayne voice.  You get the idea that Keaton recognized that putting on the mask changes this man's tone, demeanor, mannerisms, etc.  His Bruce didn't put on a Batman suit.  Keaton's Bruce transformed into Batman.

Sat, 7 Feb 2009, 00:04 #52 Last Edit: Sat, 14 Feb 2009, 21:04 by The Batman Returns
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri,  6 Feb  2009, 23:50
I think Bale is largely pretty good in the role but, as others have said, he's really got to work on that Batman voice.  Batman doesn't talk like that all the time.  Can you imagine that guy trying to order a drink?  "GET ME A REFILLLLLLL."  "Sure, what'd you have?"  "I HAD PEPSI."  "Oh yeah, the machine's broken."  "HOW BOUT SPRITE?"  "... Uh, yeah.  No, no Sprite.  Fresca, perhaps?"  "WHAT ABOUT A BEEEEEEER?"  "Uh, sir?  This is Chuck E Cheese.  No beer here."

LOL. Speaking of Bale, I wonder if he'll be in TDK's sequel after Sunday's fiasco.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri,  6 Feb  2009, 23:50

And so forth.  This is one of the few things that actually got worse from BB to TDK.  Everything else in TDK was pretty much a big improvement over the original.

True. Another con would be the new suit. As two pros, we have a better actress playing Rachel Dawes & Harvey Dent.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri,  6 Feb  2009, 23:50
Keaton, on the other hand, got it exactly right.  Maybe the best bit was when he cruised the Hall of Records or whatever that was to scope out the Penguin.  He talked to Alfred on the video thingy in a pretty convincing Batman voice.  It didn't sound like he had laryngitis or anything, he just naturally shifted his voice down an octave or two and threw in a mild growl.  But just a few minutes before, he'd spoken to Alfred in his normal Wayne voice.  You get the idea that Keaton recognized that putting on the mask changes this man's tone, demeanor, mannerisms, etc.  His Bruce didn't put on a Batman suit.  Keaton's Bruce transformed into Batman.

You've hit the jackpot.

As I was saying earlier w/ certain people hating Keaton for not being a hunk, they don't see his brilliant performance. He immersed in his role in such a unique manner. It doesn't matter that he isn't a hunk like Bruce Wayne is in the comics. Why? Because he displays the character's mannerisms so well that it makes you think that this guy is Batman & not Michael Keaton.

Like I said before, it's just a complete shame that people who bash Keaton don't recognize his talent & the mark he's left in the Batman universe.

Some people also fail to recognize that Keaton looked almost exactly like the original Kane/Finger Batman from 1939-1940. He was for the most part average height and build and had those super dark, brooding eyes.

Quote from: batass4880 on Sat,  7 Feb  2009, 00:09
Some people also fail to recognize that Keaton looked almost exactly like the original Kane/Finger Batman from 1939-1940. He was for the most part average height and build and had those super dark, brooding eyes.

Also, if you look at Neal Adams' Bruce Wayne, Keaton's facial features look just like that.

Sat, 7 Feb 2009, 02:48 #55 Last Edit: Sat, 7 Feb 2009, 02:53 by The Dark Knight
Keaton IS Batman/ Bruce Wayne. He only speaks when totally neccesary, and when he does it's in a ghost like whisper. When he does speak, you know without doubt he means what he is saying.

To me, he is the most human of all the Batmen. He doesn't really want to be seen, heard or judged. Staying at home more often, for example. I can feel his pain and trauma. I just connect with him a whole lot more.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat,  7 Feb  2009, 02:48
Keaton IS Batman/ Bruce Wayne. He only speaks when totally neccesary, and when he does it's in a ghost like whisper. To me, he is the most human of all the Batmen. I just connect with him a whole lot more.

That's how Bruce/Batman is supposed to be like, & these so-called "fans" don't realize that. What a shame.

Burton and Co. made Keaton's Bruce Wayne deficient in areas to show that the Batman obsession has taken over his life. He stays home more often, and doesn't have that 'dual personality' thing going on. He can't switch off his Batman persona, he has to voice his objections to something ala Max regarding the power plant.

Sat, 7 Feb 2009, 03:27 #58 Last Edit: Sun, 29 Mar 2009, 17:39 by Dark Knight Detective
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat,  7 Feb  2009, 03:16
Burton and Co. made Keaton's Bruce Wayne deficient in areas to show that the Batman obsession has taken over his life. He stays home more often, and doesn't have that 'dual personality' thing going on. He can't switch off his Batman persona, he has to voice his objections to something ala Max regarding the power plant.

It's too bad that these people can't UNDERSTAND that. They want Bruce to be a complete playboy instead of a man with a huge obsession.

Quote from: The Batman Returns on Sat,  7 Feb  2009, 03:27
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat,  7 Feb  2009, 03:16
Burton and Co. made Keaton's Bruce Wayne deficient in areas to show that the Batman obsession has taken over his life. He stays home more often, and doesn't have that 'dual personality' thing going on. He can't switch off his Batman persona, he has to voice his objections to something ala Max regarding the power plant.

It too bad that these people can't UNDERSTAND that. They want Bruce to be a complete playboy instead of a man with a huge obsession.

Yeah i know what you mean, sure It's good to have things a little different in the "new series" of movies, but Bale took it to far and just beacuse Nolan says hes a huge playboy doesn't make it any more definative.