Fixing Batman and Robin

[Gotham Knight]

Well then maybe you shouldnt have mentioned Nolan then huh? 

'The Dark Knight' mentioned Nolan, not Sandman.

[DarkVengeance]

Well then maybe you shouldnt have mentioned Nolan then huh? 

'The Dark Knight' mentioned Nolan, not Sandman.

I stand corrected!

[shadowbat69]

back on topic.

[thecolorsblend]

Completely new script.

Fire Schumacher.  Bring back Burton.

Fire Ah-nuld.  Hire Patrick Stewart.

Fire Clooney.  Hire Keaton.

Fire O'Donnel.

Fire Silverstone.

Fire and ex-communicate Akiva Goldsman.

Tone down the kiddy'ness and stupidity.

Play Freeze as society's Frankenstein.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

[Gotham Knight]

Wash, rinse, repeat.

lol, nice touch. All those things would work excellently, no doubt.

I still maintain  that IF you had to keep Joel, the best thing they could have done was rewrite the script in a similar line of Forever, even if that meant duplicating it (still be better than ultimately what we got), also making sure to delete a few characters like Bruce's new and utterly useless new beau, Batgirl, Bane, and maybe even rething the choice of villains.

[DarkVengeance]

Completely new script.

Fire Schumacher.  Bring back Burton.

Fire Ah-nuld.  Hire Patrick Stewart.

Fire Clooney.  Hire Keaton.

Fire O'Donnel.

Fire Silverstone.

Fire and ex-communicate Akiva Goldsman.

Tone down the kiddy'ness and stupidity.

Play Freeze as society's Frankenstein.

Wash, rinse, repeat.

If only all of that was as easy said as done!

[Sandman]

Having Keaton come back is having a dream come true, esp if he is taking on Patrick Stewart Frezze. LOL everyone wants him for frezze i guess he just is Frezze.

[gordonblu]

There is a French film called the City of Lost Children. In the Film a mad scientist is unable to dream so he kidnaps children and hooks them and himself up to a machine in order to experience their dreams. But all of the kids have nightmares because they are afraid of the scientist. Ron Perlman plays a circus strongman looking for his missing brother who just so happens is the only kid who  not afraid of the scientist. You ask me where I'm going with this? The actor playing the villain is a man named Daniel Emilfork, he is the boniest, most gaunt person I've ever seen and ever since I can't se anyone but him as Mr. Freeze.


As for Fixing Batman and Robin? NO BATGIRL! Give Uma Thurman a better written part for Poison Ivy. Lose the neon, nipples, and the stupid ice puns. Give Robin his original costume back(the title is Batman and Robin, not Batman and Nightwing), have Freeze try to take revenge against Ferris Boyle, who could serve as a Max Schreck type of third villain, and take the time to get the script right!

The big problem was it was

A. directed by Schumacher who does dramas well(The Client, A Time To Kill) but does terrible with any kind of fantasy.


B. Pressure was put on the production to make it "toyetic"


C. Released too soon after Batman Forever. All of the previous films had three years between them. Of course that didn't help Batman Forever in the story department, but the film was a financial success,  more than likely due to the passage of time, and Jim "wreck my childhood favorites" Carrey was a big deal at the time.

[THE BAT-MAN]

We all know that Batman & Robin can't be fixed, but here is an interesting video clip that attempts too.

[johnnygobbs]

The big problem was it was

A. directed by Schumacher who does dramas well(The Client, A Time To Kill) but does terrible with any kind of fantasy.

I don't entirely agree with you there.  The Lost Boys and Flatliners are both to some extent decent fantasy films, and their respective tone (especially Flatliner's) would have lent itself well to a Batman film.  Schumacher even stated in a later interview that he'd wish he could have made The Dark Knight Returns, and whilst I have my reservations about any adaptation of that particular graphic novel I still believe that it's a pity he wasn't allowed to direct a darker Batman; he was certainly capable of doing so.  I'm not saying that Schumacher could have done as good a job as Burton (or Nolan has now done), but he could easily have had a fair stab at it.

To be fair, the fault lies with the studio, and only with Schumacher in as far as he didn't tell them where to go with their 'toyetic' concept and the absolutely awful screenplays he chose to direct.