Batman 89 live orchestra (different takes?)

Started by eledoremassis02, Mon, 15 Jan 2024, 04:58

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I've been hearing that there are different takes in the edit used in the current 35 anniversary live orchestra screenings.

One of them being Alfred telling Bruce that Viki had arrived in the Batcave.

Another is also a different take for the "We're going to be here for quite some time" scene.

Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Mon, 15 Jan  2024, 04:58I've been hearing that there are different takes in the edit used in the current 35 anniversary live orchestra screenings.

One of them being Alfred telling Bruce that Viki had arrived in the Batcave.

Another is also a different take for the "We're going to be here for quite some time" scene.
That's exciting. I was planning on going anyway, but this is an added incentive.

Mon, 15 Jan 2024, 14:07 #2 Last Edit: Mon, 15 Jan 2024, 14:17 by eledoremassis02
I'm wondering what the filming policy is, I see people recording the elfman concerts and Id like to get quick clips of those since it might be other only time we'd see these takes

Edited
https://youtu.be/3DqiCS3wMBw?si=0oYU9PFQZUei0fLE

There is a no filming policy

Mon, 15 Jan 2024, 15:28 #3 Last Edit: Mon, 15 Jan 2024, 15:31 by DocLathropBrown
I attended, there is indeed a no filming policy, at least while things are going :P

There were additional flourishes in the score, presumably stuff Danny wrote that didn't make it to the final cut. There was a short reprise of Danny's love theme (Not "Scandalous") when Vicki said goodbye to Alfred the morning after ("Back, Miss Vale?") and another brief cue played alongside Alicia seeing Jack again ("You'll never believe what happened to me today").

There was an intermission, right after the Batmobile stops at Bruce's feet, and in that moment, the orchestra did a little wrap-up music, reprising the moment when Batman jumps off the roof at the beginning of the movie.

The orchestra performed the classical piece at the museum (which makes sense, but I hadn't thought about it), and they also performed "Theme From a Summer Place," along with the Hill Bowen version of "Beautiful Dreamer," which is the one tracked-in for the real movie (Burton didn't end up using the versions recorded for Elfman's score). Speaking of the apartment scene, they put back-in Danny's piece for the sequence (before the Joker arrives), which runs from just before the scene transition and ends when Bruce pushes Vicki to sit down.

For my performance, sadly, the orchestra got out-of-sync during "Waltz to the Death," and it totally broke my brain for a moment :D, but thankfully they righted themselves for the rest.

For the end credits, where "Scandalous" normally plays, the orchestra continued on and first played something I couldn't quite make out (I was in the second row and between the cheers and my poor acoustic position, I had trouble identifying it), but it segued into a reprise of "Decent into Mystery" to finish up. It was quite nice.

Warners obviously provided a custom sound mix, without music and with boosted dialogue, reduced (or removed) sound effects and some additional ADR added, for whatever reason. Some voices could be buried in the normal sound mixes that I'd never heard, but others I'm sure were newly dubbed in, for cops/background characters. You could hear Knox's questions to the crime lords at City Hall pretty clearly (along with too much vocal noise drowning out the orchestra, for some reason), and the black reporter who talks before Knox was a different voice!

Alfred also announced Vicki coming into the cave ("Miss Vale, sir!") in a voice that was too enthusiastic, and he also calls to her at the end when she turns around to see him and the car ("Miss Vale!") Both were clearly Michael Gough's voice, so I assume they were pulled from the archives and put back in.

I gotta say though, while I wish the dialogue was quieter or nonexistent (but I guess the movie being only visual with no sound would have bored normal folks), it was an experience unlike any other, and I was in heaven. From the Wayne flashback on, it was a damn-near spiritual experience for me. If you have a chance to go, GO!

https://www.dcfilmsinconcert.com/
"There's just as much room for the television series and the comic books as there is for my movie. Why wouldn't there be?" - Tim Burton

Quote from: DocLathropBrown on Mon, 15 Jan  2024, 15:28I attended, there
So, this is a showing of the complete movie then? Rather than a concert with selected scenes being live scored?

Either way, this sounds very interesting.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon, 15 Jan  2024, 19:42So, this is a showing of the complete movie then? Rather than a concert with selected scenes being live scored?

Either way, this sounds very interesting.

Yeah, the entirety of the movie, the only difference (basically) is that the score is performed live as the movie plays.
"There's just as much room for the television series and the comic books as there is for my movie. Why wouldn't there be?" - Tim Burton


Damn, I checked out the upcoming schedule for these, and I really wish the nearest one to me wasn't a 7+ hour drive.

That's the way it goes sometimes. Either way, attending one of these sounds like it's definitely a unique and memorable experience!
"Imagination is a quality given a man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humour was provided to console him for what he is."

Went to the Flint showing, I had never seen Batman '89 with an audience that was excited about the film as I was. The music sounded just like the movie and was right on que with the scenes.
I went with a friend who got some shots of us, Man, do I look old.
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You look good to me. A dead ringer for Eckhardt, and you can quote me on that.

Sun, 10 Mar 2024, 04:54 #9 Last Edit: Sun, 10 Mar 2024, 19:34 by eledoremassis02
Got the deleted line from Alfred. Haven't seen anyone post a clip of it https://streamable.com/80mbug

Also I noticed the one reporter who asks about Grisson before Knox asks his question was overdubbed in the final version, his real voice is in this concert mix and Alfred calls Vicki by name at the end when she looks at the Batsignal