Superman (2025)

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It's the same situation with the Batcave. So many movies, yet we've never seen the giant penny or dinosaur. The closest any live action depiction has come to the wackiness of the comic book Batcave would be the Adam West show, and I'm sure Dozier would have included the dinosaur and penny in that series if he'd been able to. But every other live action version of the cave has opted for a more grounded take, where it's basically just the Batcomputer, the armoury and the Batmobile workshop. Hopefully the next cinematic Batcave will break that trend.

Agreed.

Seems to me that if anybody was ever going to do up a proper comic book Batcave, it would've been Joel Schumacher. If you pay close attention, the Batcave scenes in B&R take place on a lower level, implying that the upper level was still being repaired after the destruction caused by the Riddler in BF. As a teenager, I hoped that if Schumacher ever made a sequel to B&R, that he'd include the dinosaur, the giant penny and all that stuff. Maybe Robin's BF costume on display in a glass case.

Snyder made a step in the right direction by putting a Robin costume in a glass case in BVS tho. So, at least there's that.

With the Fortress, I'd love to see some of the more traditional comic book elements make an appearance. The statues of Lara and Jor-El, the Phantom Zone projector, bottled Kandor, the zoo of endangered aliens.

There's also the raised Titanic, statues of Superman's various allies, the vault of truly dangerous weapons/technology, various incomplete maps of sections of the Phantom Zone, a portal/viewer into the Phantom Zone, samples of various types of Kryptonite for Superman's research into a cure/antidote/vax, a memorial to Krypton as part of the Jor-El/Lara statue thing, a science lab and probably other stuff I'm forgetting.

As perhaps a case of Bat-envy, some artists have drawn a giant dinosaur statue and a giant penny in the FOS as well. But those items are infrequent. I never wanted them to be mainstays anyway because, let's face it, those are Batman's souvenirs. Superman should have his own swag.

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If test screenings are to be believed, apparently the film felt episodic and reaction was mixed. The humor and "silliness" was cited, with ViewerAnon saying Warner Bros.' internal response was less glowing than some positive reports suggested. I don't necessarily have a problem with Krypo, and I'm up for new things, but I get the feeling he's going to be pushed hard, and possibly too hard.

All I really needed Gunn to do, is to get out of his comfort zone, and truly swing for the fences. If this is the start of your planned DCU, let's aspire to try something a little different, and not rely on playing it safe with MCU-style humor and quips (MCU-style quips is just beyond tired at this point, and with so many movies aping it, it's just killing movies altogether ... but the director is one of the main architects of this style of humor, so that's expecting waaay too much lol), smashing things together (we've seen this a lot and the fall out has been incredibly mixed), and having a overabundance of characters the movie seriously doesn't need.

Progression in recent years, seems to be not to not get rid of the poison pill, but to simply get better at coating it in sugar. Still, the end result remains the same.

Something I was feeling but couldn't say as good as Uncle Bingo. For all the points of differences like Krypto, Superman 2025 seems inherently the same as what came before with Reeve. And not just Reeve, but just about every MCU movie that's been avalanched down the mountains the past decade. I don't see this being the game changer or cultural moment the fans want it to be. That stuff is rare. At a bare minimum I'd be happy with recouping production costs and making enough profit. Superman 2025 doesn't just have to fight its own war against the Superman curse, but general apathy about going to the cinema.