Trailer

[Gotham Knight]

1989 SUIT WITH BATTLE DAMAGE IS IN THE VAULT!!!

[DocLathropBrown]

The idea that Keaton's Batman had two suits before the '89 one is just silly, since he's still new in that film. In spite of these allusions to comic book history, I also take some umbridge with the idea that he would have straight-up carried handguns on his person.

That said, that shot is a bigger bummer to me, seeing specialized underwater and snow (?) suits for him as it suggests a rich history and other adventures... which we would have gotten to see under Hamada's plan. Also, the '89 suit being damaged means he retired it right after the night the Joker died, I reckon.

[Gotham Knight]

You can actually see a 'timeline' of the batsuits. There are two batsuits that have the 89 emblem that seem to predate the 89 suit my freaking God. We need screen shots STAT! ONE HAS GUNS. Bruce started with guns! FIRST APPEARANCE SUIT

[The Joker]

The 'Vault of Suits' picture brightened up a bit.




Plus a few more.

[eledoremassis02]

all the leaked promo art made it look like Keaton had a weak chin. Very glad to see that was wrong. Very pleased! I did not expect to see Keatons Batman fight in the daylight.

cant wait!

[The Dark Knight]

Before I say anything else, let's be clear that Keaton is King. His slight growl Bat voice is still there and it's still the template. I love how the cave looks and the action sequences are going to allow him to demolish enemies in ways we didn't see in B89 or BR. Keaton's entrance in the suit is visually fantastic, similar to Darth Vader striding out. Having him utter his famous catchphrase had me smiling from ear to ear. I'm a happy fan at the moment, but have to admit the exclusion of Keaton from the ending makes me nervous about his ultimate fate. But right now, I like what I see.

[Slash Man]

I had my doubts about giving Keaton the respect he deserves, but this trailer helped to reassure me. Both in the framing and and the fact that so many people are excited about him as well; it looks like most of the comments were about him. It feels weird to see him shot on digital and with CGI enhancements, but that just comes from being so used to the movies. I'm pumped.

The arsenal now looks like a museum, I love it. As others have pointed out, it does suggest a chronology. The blue and gray is obviously a standout. The one on the far left is interesting; it has a similar cowl shape to the Detective Comics 27 design, alongside the 1966 logo. Though the guns are a little concerning. Keaton technically used guns, but for some reason the guns on the Batmobile and Batwing felt different and less personal. Batman never actually carried a pistol in the Golden Age; there was a famous splash page of him brandishing, along with illustrations of him with a holster, but never carried with the intention to kill. I don't know - there's many ways to interpret the golden age comics, so I don't think there's a right or wrong answer to anything.

The shot of the suits also seems to suggest that this film will not be counting the Schumacher films, noting the omission of those suits. Also, the Riddler had previously destroyed the Batcave and all previous suits. These aren't mere replicas, since the '89 suit has the same battle damage as the end of the film.

This doesn't present a continuity issue because DC already created a branch timeline in the Batman '89 comic that excludes the Schumacher films. But that timeline also included Christopher Reeve's Superman, so I feel like we'll get a definitive answer to whether this film can fit nicely or not.

[The Joker]

The blue and gray is obviously a standout.

The blue and gray suit could be viewed as something a nod towards Bob Ringwood's concept art for B89 back in the day.



Heck, it even appears to have the white eye lenses from what I can tell.

The shot of the suits also seems to suggest that this film will not be counting the Schumacher films, noting the omission of those suits. Also, the Riddler had previously destroyed the Batcave and all previous suits. These aren't mere replicas, since the '89 suit has the same battle damage as the end of the film.

This doesn't present a continuity issue because DC already created a branch timeline in the Batman '89 comic that excludes the Schumacher films. But that timeline also included Christopher Reeve's Superman, so I feel like we'll get a definitive answer to whether this film can fit nicely or not.

I'm thinking the B89 comic won't be acknowledged, and will end up being another timeline/Earth that has the Burtonverse as a template.



Being that Christopher Reeve's Superman (appearing with what looks like Terence Stamp's General Zod), and George Reeves' Superman are appearing in separate 'bubbles' in this image (I seem to recall Adam West's Batman, and Lynda Carter's Wonder Woman are also making similar cameos), if it's not outright stated, it's probably going to be heavily implied that the Donnerverse and the Burtonverse are indeed disparate and not sharing the same timeline as the comic proposed.

[The Dark Knight]

The idea that Keaton's Batman had two suits before the '89 one is just silly, since he's still new in that film. In spite of these allusions to comic book history, I also take some umbridge with the idea that he would have straight-up carried handguns on his person.

I do agree. I'm perhaps viewing those suits (particularly the one with guns) as prototypes he designed in the early years when working out his crime fighting modus operandi, and decided to keep them.

Also, the '89 suit being damaged means he retired it right after the night the Joker died, I reckon.

That's my guess too, and I like the idea. Batman knew the importance of that battle and retired the suit as a tribute. The Joker died but his shadow still cast a strong shadow afterwards. The B89 batarang is still being used, which is fine in my book. I didn't think the Returns version was a replacement per se but rather a device with a specialist purpose.

[The Laughing Fish]

Ngl, this shot looks pretty legit.

I assume that shot was the only one that impressed you?

If so, I agree. Keaton spreading his cape and diving down was the only real standout shot of that entire trailer. That was great. It's too bad the rest of what we're shown is downright mediocre. The shot where Keaton raises his hands up and says "try not to die" is really awkward; by far the worst shot of him as Batman I've ever seen.

I could bitch in detail about the movie's apparent use of MOS to sh*t on Snyder's direction, the anticipation of the two Barry Allens living up to Muschietti's annoying "two idiots" description, and shoddy CGI, but I won't bother. I still can't believe how this damn studio soured my interest in a film starring two Batman actors I like. Only Warners could do that. Sigh.