Ray Fisher: The Truth Behind the Drama (video)

[The Laughing Fish]

Fisher wrote a series of tweets reacting to Whedon's garbage yesterday. Charisma Carpenter blasted her ex-showrunner too, and expressed her support for Gal Gadot, who was ridiculed by Whedon.

Before I get started today, I want to thank you all for lifting and supporting EVERYONE that has been negatively affected by Joss Whedon.

I was not the first to speak out about him, but I hope to be one of the last that has to.

A>E

https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1483466008379772930?cxt=HHwWhMC-nbKeqpYpAAAA

The irony is:

[DC Films chief] Walter Hamada is probably KICKING himself right now for trying to throw Joss Whedon under the bus.

Had Walter waited, he would've seen Joss had already bought a roundtrip ticket to run HIMSELF over...

https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1483482343792914440?cxt=HHwWkMC5xZ7VsZYpAAAA

Joss Whedon had nearly two years to get his story straight.

He's likely spent tens (if not hundreds) of thousands of dollars on PR, crisis management, and coaching.

And his response to the allegations is: "They all misunderstood and/or are out to get me—also my mom is sexy"

https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1483497075958550530?cxt=HHwWhMC43eGuuJYpAAAA

I'm starting a team called "The Malevolent Force."

Who wants in?

*Joss Whedon's need not apply*

https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1483515031526547466?cxt=HHwWlIC9kfXDwJYpAAAA

Joss Whedon: "I don't threaten people. Who does that?"

The World: I don't know—maybe the guy that used to spend his free time "plotting elaborate revenges" on his own family?

https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1483526542382796800?cxt=HHwWgMC42ffhxZYpAAAA

https://twitter.com/AllCharisma/status/1483540189767110658?cxt=HHwWhMCs0aj8y5YpAAAA

#IStandWithCharismaCarpenter who (like this "bad actor in both senses") has no agency in determining matters of abuse or race, but for the influence of a White male shadow puppeteer.

@NYMag and @lilapearl should be ashamed for regurgitating this nonsense.

A>E

Last thing:

Please don't put me on a pedestal. I've made more mistakes and apologies in life than I can count.

Taking accountability for our actions, and how they may have affected others, can be some of the hardest work to do.

But we must try, in earnest, to do it.

A>E

https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1483608014519209989?cxt=HHwWisC4tZ7o6pYpAAAA

Whedon really said a lot of screwed up things in that article. Calling his own mother "sexy" being one of them, WTF?!

Good Morning America did a short cover story on Gadot's brief response to Whedon's rubbish, but oddly neglected to mention anything about Fisher.

Lila Shapiro, the same putz who wrote that putrid article, is nothing more than an enabler and an apologist. Quite rich of her to say fan worship culture is not good for any creator, but writing drivel like comparing other directors to Nazi propagandists is just fine. The fact she even wrote she laughed in that article shows she is doing a great disservice to her profession.

I wonder if Whedon truly is this brainless or if he's been promised something in exchange for saying X, Y and Z to the press in light of how active Fisher has been lately.

If Whedon ever works in the industry again, expect those f***s at WarnerMedia to be the ones who will give him a job.

[The Joker]

Yeah, Joss really stepped in it with that buffoonish rationale.

Trash human being. Pure and simple.

Good Morning America did a short cover story on Gadot's brief response to Whedon's rubbish, but oddly neglected to mention anything about Fisher.

If Whedon ever works in the industry again, expect those f***s at WarnerMedia to be the ones who will give him a job.

With the current regime? No doubt.

Post-merger ... hopefully common (and business) sense will prevail.

That'd be a new thing going on over there.

[The Laughing Fish]

Fisher slams WB yet again, this time having a go at their promotion of Black History Month on Twitter.

https://deadline.com/2022/02/ray-fisher-responds-to-warner-bros-black-history-month-tweet-fans-set-istandwithrayfisher-trending-1234957136/

Not surprised to see the petty bastards didn't highlight Cyborg. We'll see if this dispute is still ongoing post-Discovery merger.

[The Laughing Fish]

Ray Fisher has reacted to Toby Emmerich and Walter Hamada's puff piece in promoting "director-driven" films in wake of that reboot's opening weekend.



Emmerich is also the same man who said he wanted the studio to have more control of the final cut of films and wanted to get from auteurs. The fact he's saying this now must reek of some desperation on his part.

[The Joker]

"The change is a comin', it's rolling 'round the bend ...."

[The Laughing Fish]

Ray Fisher's reaction to a couple of departures of certain WB personnel. One of which was Johanna Fuentes, who Ray alleged had approved a hit piece against him.

This is a HUGE win for anyone that's undergone an investigation at Warner Bros. over the last 14 years.

John Rogovin's involvement in the Justice League investigation was the subject of many conversations between myself and WarnerMedia.

None of which were good.

Onward!

A>E

https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1522305176433872897?cxt=HHwWgsCikcKfqKAqAAAA

This will go a long way toward changing the culture of Warner Bros.

The September 4th hit piece that was put out on me to protect Walter Hamada was straight out of the old Hollywood playbook.

It's nice to see @wbd on the path to something new.

A>E

https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1524827590233444352?cxt=HHwWgMCiuamno6kqAAAA

Hopefully this means Emmerich and Hamada are next on the chopping block.

[thecolorsblend]

Emmerich is also the same man who said he wanted the studio to have more control of the final cut of films and wanted to get from auteurs.

Always wondered where that came from. Does he just not know what studio he works for? Old school WB was known as "the director's studio". They were very pro-director and gave directors flexibility that most other studios wouldn't dream of.

Snyder is actually a good example, in fact. The Watchmen film had a contractual obligation to deliver a >3 hour theatrical cut. Which Snyder delivered.

The director's cut came later. Then came that Tales Of The Black Freighter animated tie-in. Then came the Ultimate Cut, which spliced TOTBF into Snyder's director's cut.

I mean, that's a LOT of effort to put into a movie that lost money at the box office. But that was WB's rep. Putting Hollyweird nonsense aside, WB was staffed by people who were in it for love of the game. So, they invested a lot of time and money into Watchmen even after the theatrical version underperformed.

Point being that when Emmerich shot his mouth off like that, I wondered if his head was even in the game at all. Because what he said was literally the opposite of everything WB had always been.

Small wonder that Nolan noped out of there, honestly.

[The Laughing Fish]

Emmerich is also the same man who said he wanted the studio to have more control of the final cut of films and wanted to get from auteurs.

I meant to delete that. Made the sentence incoherent. 

Always wondered where that came from. Does he just not know what studio he works for? Old school WB was known as "the director's studio". They were very pro-director and gave directors flexibility that most other studios wouldn't dream of.

Snyder is actually a good example, in fact. The Watchmen film had a contractual obligation to deliver a >3 hour theatrical cut. Which Snyder delivered.

The director's cut came later. Then came that Tales Of The Black Freighter animated tie-in. Then came the Ultimate Cut, which spliced TOTBF into Snyder's director's cut.

I mean, that's a LOT of effort to put into a movie that lost money at the box office. But that was WB's rep. Putting Hollyweird nonsense aside, WB was staffed by people who were in it for love of the game. So, they invested a lot of time and money into Watchmen even after the theatrical version underperformed.

Point being that when Emmerich shot his mouth off like that, I wondered if his head was even in the game at all. Because what he said was literally the opposite of everything WB had always been.

Small wonder that Nolan noped out of there, honestly.

I've read that Watchmen sold really well on home video, so that must've factored in the release of the complete director's cut that came out at the end of 2009. Either way, I'm glad, because I finally saw the Ultimate Cut last year, and it made me appreciate Watchmen even more.

It's no exaggeration when I say Emmerich, and Tsujihara before him, ran the place into the ground. So much mismanagement going around, not just on the DC side of things either. The sooner he gets replaced, the better, because he's clearly not fit for leadership.

Anyway, douchebag hack Umberto Gonzalez trolled the Snyderverse fan community yesterday after writing this trash story with unverified proof that the Oscar Cheer Moment that the Flash Speed Force scene won in a social media contest was manipulated by bots. I can't be bothered going into detail, so I'm just going to post this video that explains what happens.

Warning: the video is foul-mouthed, but I couldn't find a better one that discusses what happened.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=G_KETbRBHxM&ab_channel=TheTruth31

The reason why I'm sharing this isn't that I care about the Oscar Cheer Moment, that's nothing more than a fun little piece of fan engagement. I'm sharing this because Gonzalez is the same hack who wrote that hit piece on Ray Fisher on September 4 2020, which is what Fisher was referring to in his tweet about Johanna Fuentes leaving WB:



Rather strange timing to write this Oscar bot drivel at the same time Fuentes was reported to leave, to say the least. This guy was always an anti-Snyder clickbait merchant, I remember he used to tweet about how the Snyder cut didn't exist, and how Whedon and Johns "sAvEd" DC with Josstice League. Yeah, look how all of that turned out. It's not hard to see this piss poor excuse of a journalist get paid off by troublesome execs like a lackey.

But perhaps the most despicable tweet from yesterday was by Sean O'Connell, the two-faced snake who wrote a book about the Snyder cut saga, even interviewing fans and cast and crew.



Anyone who has read about Fisher's story and the arguments he had with Whedon over that Booyah line would understand O'Connell's gif is petty and spiteful. It's made even worse when this man actually pretended to be a fan and wrote the book for charity too. In fact, Fisher accused O'Connell of this, back in March this year:

I hope it goes without saying, but please do not listen to @Sean_OConnell.

In addition to his tone deaf reviews—we've got Sean dead to rights on working directly with Joss Whedon's and @wbpictures' PR teams to help soften Whedon's "exit" from The Nevers.

More later.

https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1503063646888411136

It's amazing how bloggers will stoop so low for the sake of money and access. Shameless.

[thecolorsblend]

I've read that Watchmen sold really well on home video, so that must've factored in the release of the complete director's cut that came out at the end of 2009.

I don't think so. The alternate cuts would've had to be far in the production pipeline in order to meet an end of year release for 2009. There's no way they could've been completed if work on them only began after the theatrical cut came out on DVD.

Either way, I'm glad, because I finally saw the Ultimate Cut last year, and it made me appreciate Watchmen even more.

Eh. I think the UC overdelivers, frankly. The director's cut offers the best balance. If I want to see the TOTBF stuff, I can watch the animated thing in full whenever I want.

My main point in ALL of this is to say that WB has historically been the studio that was friendliest to auteurs. For example, I have no love for Superman Returns. But I'm man enough to admit that ONLY old school WB would've allowed Bryan Singer that level of creative freedom with the film. Any other studio would've demanded a more formulaic approach.

Or, again, Chris Nolan. There's another one. Show me another movie studio that would've allowed him to do a major franchise film like TDK. For that matter, show me another studio that would've greenlit Inception or Dunkirk.

Essentially, Emmerich favored destroying WB's traditional identity in the marketplace. The people clamoring for "DC's Kevin Feige" didn't seem to understand how much damage that was going to do to WB's image as "the director's studio". But now, we see where that leads.

[The Laughing Fish]

May we never see the likes of Toby Emmerich again.

Better days are surely ahead.

Onward!

A>E

https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1532172969807556608?cxt=HHwWgMCt_dfMr8MqAAAA

Let's hope Ray is right.