Spider-Man: No Way Home (2021)

[Gotham Knight]

The film score leaked this weekend. It is definitely the genuine article. I can confirm having listened to it and that it is real sadly because (save for a few fleeting moments) it is the typical boring, generic MCU score. For the record, there were no track titles. I can confirm that Toby and Ock's themes are very, very briefly sampled. No Elfman Goblin.

Also here is a plot leak from China:

The doctor (Strange) failed to cast his spell, and disagrees with Peter on how to handle the villains.

Tobey doesn't die, but gets stabbed by the Green Goblin to prevent Tom's Peter from killing him.

Peter and Strange have a close battle, but Peter wins and confiscates the magic weapon (Or possibly the cube), and steals Strange's sling ring. The ring gets handed to Ned.

Ned and MJ get separated from Peter. Ned and MJ try using the sling ring to find Peter, by saying "Let me find Peter Parker" and opening a portal with a hooded/masked person inside. The hooded/masked person steps out and it's Andrew Garfield's Spider-Man. Ned and MJ make Andrew's Peter prove they're Spider-Man by forcing him to climb walls. Ned tries again and Tobey's Peter comes out in casual clothes.

The part where Peter gets soul beads() is very interesting. After Spider-Man wears it, he can automatically avoid Strange's movements. It's his inspiration. (Unsure here)

Ned is rescued by the cloak, looking like a fat sorcerer supreme. He can only open the portals and not close them. In the second half of the film, the Spider-Men() appear for about 30 minutes and share most of their scenes.

No Miles.

Garfield rescues the falling MJ. Tom tries to rescue her but is stopped by the Green Goblin. Andrew comes in and saves her.

Don't know about post credit.

There is no Venom, Falcon, Scorpion, Vulture, or Hulk. No real surprise MCU cameos.

Daredevil appears in a short cameo and catches a brick.

There is only one Green Goblin, Willem Dafoe.

The black and gold suit is an inside out version of the upgraded suit with enchantments.

Tom has compassion for the villains and doesn't believe they deserve to die since they were all sympathetic to a degree.

May gets killed by Green Goblin. Ned, Happy, and MJ are all there.

Holland's Spider-Man and the other two Spider-Men talk about the Avengers, but not Iron Man.

In the trailer, the scene where Ned, MJ, and Peter laugh at Ock's name is not misleading.

Doctor Strange appears throughout the film. His role is not big. When the other two Spidey's appear, he is trapped somewhere without his sling ring. Later, Ned opens a portal by mistake and returns him to the final decisive battle where he gets bombed. He spends the entire battle holding the multiverse crack together.

The three Spider-Men do strategize. Holland tells the other two that his world has the Avengers to Tobey and Garfield, the conversation is very beautiful. When the three team up for the final battle, they initially don't work well and are afraid of each other.

The scaffolding photo takes place before the final battle.

Peter initially wanted Strange to turn back time to before Mysterio revealed his identity, but couldn't due to the time stone no longer existing. Strange ends up getting the idea of making everyone forget Peter Parker is Spider-Man.

At this point, the first two Spider-Men do not appear.

Doctor Octopus ends up helping the good guys.

Tom went to the bridge to convince an admissions professor to let him, MJ, and Ned into MIT, but he senses Doc Ock's appearance.

The Iron Spider is absorbed by Octavius. After Ock regains his sanity, he transfers the particles back into the Iron Spider.

Electro gets defeated by Octavius.

Aunt May is killed by Green Goblin. Tom tries to kill the Green Goblin but Tobey stops him, and Green Goblin stabs Tobey in the back.

Tobey was not deaged and looks kinda like an uncle.

Aunt May says "With great power comes great responsibility"

In the ending, Doctor Strange casts a spell to send Tobey and Peter back, but not before they hug and smile at each other as they disappear.

The three most significant scenes are the bridge scene, FEAST, and the final battle (Statue of Liberty)

As soon as Sandman came to help Peter, Strange enchants Peter's suit so it teleports Sandman into the prison.

In the trailer, the last scene of the Spider-Men dealing with the Sandman, Electro, and Green Goblin is misleading. There is a shot in the trailer where Tom jumps to fight against the three villains. The real shot should be the three Spidey's jumping to the head of the statue one by one and then fighting 3vs3. It is very similar to the fanmade trailer except that they don't jump to the head together, they jump there one by one. They also have different poses. The sequence for their landing is: left, right, middle. They didn't hide Tom's landing and it was the one used in trailer.

In the end, the villains actually get sent back reformed and they don't die in battle.

The arc reactor Electro wears was left by Stark, and the villains grabbed it when they rebelled against the good guys.

The villains rebelling was instigated by Green Goblin, who felt the Spider-Men were going to kill them all.

Only five villains, no sixth.

Strange failed to cast the spell because Peter kept trying to make exceptions, which caused him to lose control of it.

Garfield doesn't bring up Gwen's death, but he does notice how close Peter and MJ are and is very touched. This is shown through close-ups.

There is no ties to Dr. Strange 2.

Garfield and Tobey do not appear in FEAST.

The air punch in the trailer was from Garfield, and he's doing a backflip in that scene(??)

In the first trailer, we see Peter run in his black and gold suit. This is because he knows Norman Osborne is at Aunt May's. He's worried she is in danger and rushes to save her.

The shot of Happy in the first trailer is him witnessing May's death. At that point he had just driven from FEAST.

Green Goblin also appeared in the bridge fight.

Lizard and Sandman are played by Rhys Ifan and Thomas Hayden Church respectively.

Garfield is wearing his TASM2 suit.

Lizard(?) is already caught by Strange when he appears.

Aunt May's scene was a point of contention. The front part of the glider stabs May and she falls down, Green Goblin tries to use a pumpkin bomb to finish her but Tom slaps away the bomb like in the trailer. Most of the damage is taken by him. They help each other up in the rubble and talk for a while. At first, we are led to believe May is fine, but she suddenly collapses and turns out she is fatally bleeding from the stab wound. Toms's hand is covered in blood

Electro got the reactor since Stark left Peter many technological gadgets, including a reactor.

The special effects are good, and we see all three of the Spider-Men swing with coordination. Very cool.

There's a shot in the trailer where JJJ smiles at the sky , that's when he sees Tom's spidey. There aren't a lot of other shots of JJJ, he has the news report at the beginning. In the middle of the movie he drives the Daily Bugle car to FEAST. Tom's spidey also contacts him to help draw out the villains. At the end of the movie, he says that Spider-Man is a hero.

Whoever Dr. Strange is trying to stop from coming through in the trailer doesn't show up. It's just glowing figures.

The end of the last film is the beginning of this film. Peter took MJ and fled through the sky, then underground, then to his house. Happy and May were flirting at home. The atmosphere was cheerful.

At the end, Peter finds Happy at May's grave, but he doesn't remember Peter.

Tobey has no web-shooters and the three discuss it.

Question: Did everyone forget Peter Parker entirely or just that he was Spider-Man. Answer: After the spell, Peter went to a shop where MJ worked and MJ no longer remembers him. When Peter went to find MJ again, he writes a note as he feels like he would be unable to speak to her. He goes to the coffee shop, sees MJ and Ned together, and leaves as he likes seeing MJ and Ned together. This scene was very well composed.

In the final scene, Peter lives alone and swings away wearing a red and blue jersey.

Dr. Strange teleported Peter and Ock from the bridge, but doesn't catch Green Goblin in time.

In the final battle, Ock disables Electro's reactor. Strange comes and ends up finishing the spell, and doesn't appear again throughout the movie.

Question: According to basic logic, when Dr. Octopus was brought in, the Green Goblin was dead, and when the Sandman was brought in, the Green Goblin/Ock was dead. Answer: Doc Ock says that Norman Osborn is dead, but it is here they meet again.

In the end, everyone forgets Peter (Including Strange) but they do remember that there is a Spider-Man.

Tobey and Garfield first engage in scientific research to find antidotes to restore certain villains back to themselves. They only suit up for the final battle.

Several villains have conversations with their respective Spideys.

The farewell between MJ and Peter before the spell was complete was the kiss in the trailer.

Tom took Strange's sling ring and took Strange far away so he couldn't get back. Only after Ned accidentally creates a portal does he return. The doctor enchants Peter's web-shooters to teleport the villains into his prison when his webs touch them.

When green goblin rebelled, Ock was already free of his arm's control and was helping electro relieve himself. When the rest rebel, Electro takes the arc reactor and mounts it to his chest. Each villain ends up getting cured by the end. Electro's cure is a mount on his chest, Lizard's is a gas, Sandman's is a type of light, Ock's is a device on his back, and Green Goblin's is a neck syringe.

[The Dark Knight]

Not long now until pizza time. I have my ticket and will be having a meat lovers before walking in. This is one of the few things that's exciting me at the moment, along with Resurrections and The Batman. Hopefully I can see those before I swing. And in regards to Giacchino's Spider-Man scores, even though I find them bland overall, Swinging Set is sensational. He passed the most important test, which is the main hero theme.

[Gotham Knight]

At least one other source has come out and claimed the Chinese leak is true.

[Gotham Knight]

The leak was correct. I've just scene the entire final battle. Spoilers: Ock's face turn melted me. Also Tobey and Ock have a conversation which completely annihilated me.

Funny bit when all the Spidey's are arguing because they're losing the fight.

Holland. "I don't wanna brag but I will. I've fought on a team before. I was on the Avengers."

Tobey: 'That's great!...What is that?!"

Good stuff. It's all over Youtube btw.

[The Joker]

It feels weird in actually looking forward to a new Spider-Man movie, but here we are. Already got tickets for Friday (coincidentally my birthday), and some friends and I are going out to eat that evening, then checking out the 10PM showing later. Should be a fun night. 

[Silver Nemesis]

Happy birthday for tomorrow, Joker! I hope you and your friends have a good time. I think you will.

I'm feeling cautiously optimistic about No Way Home after reading some of the reviews. I've noticed a lot of critics are now acknowledging the problems with the previous two solo Spidey flicks. Problems which they overlooked at the time, but which fans like us were quick to point out. Some critics are claiming that those problems have been addressed in the new movie. For example, the high-tech Spider-Man suits have apparently been ditched in favour of a more basic traditional costume. And the theme of responsibility has finally been raised, with Uncle Ben's death getting referenced and Peter having to confront the negative consequences of his actions without having Stark Industries bail him out every step of the way. I don't know if all the problems have been fixed, but it does sound promising. If nothing else, I get the feeling it's going to be the best entry in the MCU Spider-Man trilogy.

I've been avoiding spoilers for the main plot, but I have read about the appearance of a certain lawyer from Hell's Kitchen. VERY MINOR SPOILERS: Apparently he appears in one scene towards the end of the movie and only in his civilian guise. I'm cool with that. I'm just happy to know he's back.

[The Dark Knight]

Saw an advance screening.

Spider Meh. The movie has no authenticity in its interactions between characters. Nearly everything is played for dumb jokes, and I mean just about everything. Holland is an annoying douchebag and the Iron Boy elements are still there with tech suits and the like. Something innate is missing with him. The other Spider-Man actors are okay but are operating within the Disney formula.

The way I see it, the villains aren't rehabilitated, they just lose their powers and accept forced normality because of it. And get sent back to their timeline deaths anyway. So much damage gets caused for nothing, which seems very childish. Spider-Man is about helping people, I guess, but responsibly is at the top of everything. He accepts stone cold truth even if it causes him pain. The other Spider-Men may not like that their villains died, but would accept that they did, had to in that specific moment, and it still has to happen now.

I was looking forward to Andrew and Tobey, but overall the movie is overrated and just doesn't do it for me. It's not my Spider-Man. Just not really feeling it. If I had to give it a score, it'd probably be 6 or 7. The concept doesn't make this the best Spider-Man movie of all time, that's still head and shoulders Spider-Man 2.

[Travesty]

I liked it quite a bit. I was never a huge fan of the MCU Spidey(didn't hate him, but never loved him), but I really liked him here. I would put this up there with SM2 and Into the Spiderverse. I really don't know how to talk about this movie without spoiling everything, so I wont right now. But I did like this movie.

One thing I didn't like was Electro. Jamie Fox was pretty bad in this. I think it was his lines. They were just bad. But that's about the only low point for me.

[The Joker]

Happy birthday for tomorrow, Joker! I hope you and your friends have a good time. I think you will.

Thanks, Silver! Appreciate it. Yeah, it should be a fun night. Having not seen this yet, I don't see how this can't be better than the previous two Stark Ward movies. Which isn't a tough hill to climb to be perfectly honest. The inclusions of Tobey, Garfield, Molina, and Dafoe pretty much guarantee that.

[The Dark Knight]

I liked it quite a bit. I was never a huge fan of the MCU Spidey(didn't hate him, but never loved him), but I really liked him here. I would put this up there with SM2 and Into the Spiderverse. I really don't know how to talk about this movie without spoiling everything, so I wont right now. But I did like this movie.

One thing I didn't like was Electro. Jamie Fox was pretty bad in this. I think it was his lines. They were just bad. But that's about the only low point for me.

I don't outright hate the movie but I feel like it could've been so much more. I don't like the tone. For example, two characters walk through a portal, into some random kitchen, and the mother says for them to clean up the webs as she's now going to bed. Uh huh. I'm all for fantasy but I need believable human interaction. After this I'm really longing for The Batman.