The Suicide Squad (2021)

Started by The Joker, Sun, 23 Aug 2020, 03:18

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It was a fun movie that brought some much needed color to the forefront. The costumes and design worked for selling an artistic but believable world. But just like the previous movie, it references events that would have arguably been more interesting to see; these villains were assumed to have been defeated by Batman and Robin, Superman, Firestorm, Green Lantern, the Flash, and more. This isn't an insult to the movie, but I totally would rather watch Batman and Robin versus Polka Dot Man as its own film.

In the comics, the Suicide Squad brought back fan favorite villains in an antihero capacity, and also tied up loose ends by killing off lesser known villains. Without seeing them as villains first, we do miss a lot of the setup. This flaw isn't inherent to the film, but definitely an unfortunate side effect of a film adaptation. Part of me didn't like seeing characters without stories yet being killing off, but they mainly kept that to the D-list. TDK and Blackguard will not be missed.

The cast still had a great chemistry together, and I ended up being invested in what happened to the [second] group. Dare I say Peacemaker was the breakout star of the group? Still not sold on Harley though, and I maintain she works better as a side character/henchwoman than occupying a significant B plot of the story. TSS learned from its predecessor and trimmed most of the fat from the plot, but Harley's story was pretty pointless. Her powers consist mostly of plot armor. At least her suit was a huge improvement over the previous films.

It felt good to see a more straightforward action film set in the DC universe. It's no masterpiece, but I was thoroughly entertained.

I really enjoyed this. It was darkly hilarious as it should have been but it had its sincere moments that were heartfelt, intense, and even tragic. It's also the goriest movie I've ever watched in my life,  lol.

I'll be interested to see how the Peacemaker series follows up the movie and his actions. Not going into details cause I dunno when the statute of limitations on spoilers runs out but he seems to hate what he has to do and what he thinks his duty is. What he does to one character in particular and that character's parting words to him, it'd be nice to see if he's haunted by that (especially if it means more on screen time for that character in flashbacks/haunting visions since they were my favorite in TSS).


Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri, 13 Aug  2021, 00:07
What I'm hoping is that WB stops poaching Marvel talent to work on DC films. Because that now has a clear track record of failure.

Too bad Zaslav and co didn't learn a damn thing. Yes, I understand nobody wanted the role, but was Gunn and Safran really the best they could do? This whole fiasco taught me a new phrase: fail upwards.

It's bad enough that disturbed man Gunn is writing a Superman reboot, I read that Tom King is saying Gunn will direct it too.

And what exactly is Gunn's idea of Superman? Read it and weep:

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"I really love the idea of Superman," he explained in a recent press conference. "He's a big ol' galoot. He's a farmboy from Kansas who's very idealistic. His greatest weakness is that he'll never kill anybody. He doesn't want to hurt a living soul. I like that sort of innate goodness about Superman; it's his defining characteristic. He's not [the] 'All-Star Superman' [version of the character], but again, I'm a huge fan of 'All-Star Superman,' and I'm very inspired by [that comic book series]."

https://www.supermanhomepage.com/james-gunn-explains-his-version-of-superman/

Yeah, because when you think of Superman, you think he's a clumsy idiot, right? Right?  ::)

This douche is catering to the moronic Twitter crowd who thinks Superman should be a "himbo of hope". I'm not kidding, that's what some people tweeted online. Any sort of challenge or introspection towards the character seems to be met with cries of how dark it is. These people lack nuance, they only see the character in the most superficial ways.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 15 Mar  2023, 08:58
And what exactly is Gunn's idea of Superman? Read it and weep:

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"I really love the idea of Superman," he explained in a recent press conference. "He's a big ol' galoot. He's a farmboy from Kansas who's very idealistic. His greatest weakness is that he'll never kill anybody. He doesn't want to hurt a living soul. I like that sort of innate goodness about Superman; it's his defining characteristic. He's not [the] 'All-Star Superman' [version of the character], but again, I'm a huge fan of 'All-Star Superman,' and I'm very inspired by [that comic book series]."

https://www.supermanhomepage.com/james-gunn-explains-his-version-of-superman/

Yeah, because when you think of Superman, you think he's a clumsy idiot, right? Right?  ::)

This douche is catering to the moronic Twitter crowd who thinks Superman should be a "himbo of hope". I'm not kidding, that's what some people tweeted online. Any sort of challenge or introspection towards the character seems to be met with cries of how dark it is. These people lack nuance, they only see the character in the most superficial ways.

Judging from what he's been posting on Twitter, I'm expecting Gunn's version to be pull a Geoff Johns/Bryan Singer, where it's going to be noticeably influenced by Richard Donner's take, only with Supes' "naivete" and "simplistic" idealism being a continual source for comedy until that moment you could see coming a mile away where it's conveyed that the cynical humans could only wish they could view the world thru his purity, ect. Cause, let's face it, that's literally is where Superman both begins and ends with some people.
"Imagination is a quality given a man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humour was provided to console him for what he is."

Gunn just confirmed he is directing the Superman reboot today, not so long after Snyder teased an upcoming mystery event with Ray Porter's Darkseid announcing the dates. What a coincidence. ::)

Quote from: The Joker on Wed, 15 Mar  2023, 13:46
Judging from what he's been posting on Twitter, I'm expecting Gunn's version to be pull a Geoff Johns/Bryan Singer, where it's going to be noticeably influenced by Richard Donner's take, only with Supes' "naivete" and "simplistic" idealism being a continual source for comedy until that moment you could see coming a mile away where it's conveyed that the cynical humans could only wish they could view the world thru his purity, ect. Cause, let's face it, that's literally is where Superman both begins and ends with some people.

This fits right in with idiots on Twitter using panels from All-Star Superman as the basis for the whole character. Look, it's a great story and all, but it's about Superman who is coming to terms with his impending death and trying to make everyone comfortable as possible. Not all Superman stories are made to be that sentimental.

Speaking of the ongoing Donner obsession, Paul Dini  expressed frustration with its influence becoming too ingrained while reviewing Superman Returns.

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Given Superman's history in comics, movies, radio, television and a dozen other places, I was disappointed that the filmmakers looked only as far as the two movies made in the late 70's for their inspiration. But Superman, both as a character and as an entire concept, is much richer than those films. Clark the bumbler, the barely developed Daily Planet staff (besides Lois), the Superman/Clark/Lois triangle, goddamn wacky Lex and his daffy henchmoll du jour, ugh. Enough. You clowns are spending, when all is said and done, 300 million dollars. Show me something I can't get at the video rental store. Screw the fact THE INCREDIBLES is a cartoon, give me a story that's better than that, because animated or not, THE INCREDIBLES is the new gold standard for superhero movies. SUPERMAN RETURNS was in live-action (partially) and it felt like a cartoon, a flat, boring one.

https://kingofbreakfast.livejournal.com/31840.html

A Wiseman once said, the Man of Tomorrow is locked up in the past.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

This Variety tweet sums it up perfectly: James Gunn hired himself to direct Superman Legacy.



I caught a tweet by DanielRPK, a scooper who got supposedly got many leaks right in the past, and the way he sees it, nothing other than Gunn's Suicide Squad is canon going forward. His Peacemaker show is mostly canon except for that stupid Flash and Aquaman cameo.

When egos run wild.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei