The Flash (2022)

[The Joker]

If numerous 2nd tier villains are going to be appearing in this, it would be nice, for the sakes of continuity within the Burtonverse, that these villains, at the very least, visually look a bit Burtonesque in their costumes.

Yes, it's decades since BR, and I expect the Burtonverse Gotham City to look a little different 30 years later, but having that visual Burton aesthetic continue and be represented in costumes (other than Batman) would be a nice sentiment.

[eledoremassis02]

If true, its interesting how '89 Universe is the "evil" one. I assume (if following flashpoint) its because their Super(wo)man has been locked up?

Also, this will mark Keaton as the "longest-running" live-action Batman (story-wise) since Afflecks been Batman a good 10 years less now.

Will be interesting to see how he's kept up as Batman and how he adapts to metas

[The Joker]

Also, this will mark Keaton as the "longest-running" live-action Batman (story-wise) since Afflecks been Batman a good 10 years less now.

Will be interesting to see how he's kept up as Batman and how he adapts to metas

True, and also this would mean that Keaton's Batman, if even just semi-active, has extended further out, age wise, than even the DCAU Batman. Who was probably in his late 50's/early 60's when he decided to hang up the cowl.

[The Laughing Fish]

If true, its interesting how '89 Universe is the "evil" one. I assume (if following flashpoint) its because their Super(wo)man has been locked up?

Also, this will mark Keaton as the "longest-running" live-action Batman (story-wise) since Afflecks been Batman a good 10 years less now.

Will be interesting to see how he's kept up as Batman and how he adapts to metas

Storywise, Affleck's Batman had been active for twenty years, as he reveals in BvS. But yes, in terms of longevity, Keaton would've had over thirty years worth of experience. Maybe even longer, depending how far this movie takes place in his universe.

[Gotham Knight]

Interesting note is that Dwayne Johnson appears and says, "Things will never be the same again." There is am immediate cut to the Flash/KeatonBat team up conceptual. This is a definite tease that the multiverse will be a staple going forward, though it could be easily read as a tease for the future of Keaton's Batman.

[The Laughing Fish]

The Flash movie is "complex" with a "massive" scale, says cinematographer Henry Braham — but the Justice League spin-off is "not really a comic book movie." The DC Comics adaptation, reuniting Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice and Justice League co-stars Ezra Miller as the Flash and Ben Affleck as Batman, is Braham's latest after shooting the James Gunn-directed The Suicide Squad. Ahead of the new movie racing into theaters in November 2022, Braham updates The Flash and explains why director Andy Muschietti's brave and bold spin-off isn't a "superhero movie":

"[The Flash is] going great. I mean, it's a complex movie, and it's a fantastic concept of bringing in the generations of these kind of comic books," Braham told Collider, adding the blockbuster comic book adaptation is "not really a comic book movie."

"It's not based in reality, but it's a much more kind of technically complex — I think all the filmmakers are really keen that the technical complexity of the storytelling doesn't get in the way of just good quality filmmaking," said Braham, whose credits include The Legend of Tarzan and Marvel's Guardians of the Galaxy Vol. 2. "Hopefully, I don't think it'll ever come across as a superhero movie. It will come across as a movie, and that's what it is. I think that's the way these things need to go. We need to be making great, great, great films that happen to have superheroes who have truthful characters behind them, with all the character flaws that we find in humanity."

Michael Keaton's Batman returns alongside fellow DC Extended Universe newcomer Sasha Calle, who plays Superman's Kryptonian cousin Supergirl.

"It's a pleasure working with the cast, as they're fantastic. Michael, of course, is a genius, and it's wonderful to see him recreate that role but in the present day. It's wonderful," Braham said of Keaton's 30-years-later Batman comeback. "I think the movie has a massive scope, and I'm lucky to be able to work on movies I'd like to go and see. I'm not really interested in comic book movies. I'm interested in movies that take me on a journey, an emotional journey, and a visual journey."

The Flash features top-shelf visual effects supervised by John "DJ" Desjardin (Zack Snyder's Justice League, Godzilla vs. Kong), but for Braham, combining the technological side with the storytelling side "can be beautiful, and it can be emotional."

Braham added: "On the one hand, you have the kind of technical thing of when, what, and how. But it's like all filmmaking, it's about kind figuring out an idea so that you don't really think about it. You don't think, 'Oh.' It becomes a natural part of the storytelling, so yeah. It's fairly enjoyable, and fun to do."

https://web.archive.org/web/20210828204917/https://comicbook.com/movies/news/the-flash-cinematographer-complex-massive-scope-not-really-comic-book-movie-henry-braham/

The problem is there are rumours still persisting that Keaton and Miller will suffer from dumb screwball comedy that make them look foolish. And make no mistake, Warner Butchers will want to continue emulating that MCU formula. I predict The Flash will be a tonal mess.

[Silver Nemesis]

Here's a pretty good fan trailer.

[Gotham Knight]

It occurs to me watching Worth (2021) that it is actually very easy to make Keaton not look 70, even when that isn't even really the goal. You basically warm him up and put some hair on him and he's basically 55. Very possible they are shaving some years off for the Flash.

[Silver Nemesis]

Speaking of Keaton's age, I've just realised that he would have been the same age at the time of filming The Flash as Jack Palance was when he shot Batman '89. Both actors were 69 at the time of filming, but had passed 70 by time the film was released. In Keaton's case, he just turned 70 two days ago and he'll be 71 when The Flash finally comes out. By then he might already have shot another DC movie (most likely Batgirl).

[The Laughing Fish]

Rumour has it that Andres Muschietti loved ZSJL and made changes to the script to make his film tie in more closely to the Snyderverse. Martian Manhunter is another character rumoured to appear, but nobody knows if Harry Lennix will reprise the role.

But until we get assurance this is really the case, take everything with a huge grain of salt.