The Flash (2022)

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Micheal Keaton Didn't Initially Understand How Batman and Vulture Return
Next year, Michael Keaton is appearing two comic book movies, The Flash and Morbius, as Batman/Bruce Wayne and Vulture/Adrian Toomes. However, the veteran of Batman and Batman Returns has admitted that he didn't fully understand the multiversal explanation behind both of his big screen returns.
In a new profile by The Hollywood Reporter, Keaton confirmed that his Vulture in Morbius is the same character he played in Spider-Man: Homecoming. Regardless, Keaton was confused by the explanation that he was given for reappearance.

"I'm nodding like I know what the f*** they're talking about. I go, 'Uh-huh.' And I'm thinking, 'You may as well be explaining quantum physics right now to me. All I know is I just know my guy. And I know the basics,'" related Keaton. "So finally, they were looking at me, and they just started laughing. They said, 'You don't know what we're talking about, do you?' I said, 'No, I don't, no idea what you're talking about.' "

Keaton also admitted that he didn't initially comprehend the concept of the multiverse in The Flash. However, he did have a desire to revisit his role as Batman.

"Frankly, in the back of my head, I always thought, 'I bet I could go back and nail that motherfu**er,' " said Keaton "And so I thought, 'Well, now that they're asking me, let me see if I can pull that off.'... I had to read [the script] more than three times to go, 'Wait, how does this work?' They had to explain that to me several times."

"By the way, I'm not being arrogant, I hope, about this. I don't say it like, 'I'm too groovy,' added Keaton. "I'm stupid. There's a lot of things I don't know about. And so, I don't know, I just kind of figured it out, but this was different. What's really interesting is how much more I got [Batman] when I went back and did him. I get this on a whole other level now. I totally respect it. I respect what people are trying to make."

Keaton also said that he "never looked at it like, 'Oh, this is just a silly thing.' It was not a silly thing when I did Batman. But it has become a giant thing, culturally. It's iconic. So I have even more respect for it because what do I know? This is a big deal in the world to people. You've got to honor that and be respectful of that. Even I go, 'Jesus, this is huge.' "


Over the years, Keaton hasn't made much of a secret out of wanting Batman back. So, I wouldn't say this is a big revelation.

Still, I want to believe that he sandbagged the story about the Vulture for comedic effect. Because the idea of parallel universes has existed in fiction (and the general lexicon) for decades (if not longer) so it surprises me that he apparently doesn't grasp the concept.


Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 18 Aug  2021, 19:55
Still, I want to believe that he sandbagged the story about the Vulture for comedic effect. Because the idea of parallel universes has existed in fiction (and the general lexicon) for decades (if not longer) so it surprises me that he apparently doesn't grasp the concept.
He probably has a general idea but doesn't have any serious interest in comics or their storytelling devices. Like Romero, he probably just needs to know his lines and his character's motivation. I'm well versed in the multiverse concept, obviously, but still had to wrap my head around the idea Keaton's universe isn't a self contained bubble which loosely continued onwards with BF and B&R. Because things have been that way for 30 years. The Flash movie changes that idea forever.

Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Thu, 19 Aug  2021, 01:38
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/michael-keaton-on-reviving-batman-the-protege-worth-dopestick-1234998480/

according to Hollywood Reporter, keatons done filming his scenes for Flash
Hoping for the best, because it's all in the can now. Keaton seems even more comfortable with the character than ever, so I'm not doubting he's happy with the performance. Bale said he didn't completely nail the role. I don't think Keaton would ever feel that way. I think the question was more about if he could still slip back into the suit decades later and recapture the magic.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu, 19 Aug  2021, 01:50
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 18 Aug  2021, 19:55
Still, I want to believe that he sandbagged the story about the Vulture for comedic effect. Because the idea of parallel universes has existed in fiction (and the general lexicon) for decades (if not longer) so it surprises me that he apparently doesn't grasp the concept.
He probably has a general idea but doesn't have any serious interest in comics or their storytelling devices. Like Romero, he probably just needs to know his lines and his character's motivation. I'm well versed in the multiverse concept, obviously, but still had to wrap my head around the idea Keaton's universe isn't a self contained bubble which loosely continued onwards with BF and B&R. Because things have been that way for 30 years. The Flash movie changes that idea forever.

Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Thu, 19 Aug  2021, 01:38
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/michael-keaton-on-reviving-batman-the-protege-worth-dopestick-1234998480/

according to Hollywood Reporter, keatons done filming his scenes for Flash
Hoping for the best, because it's all in the can now. Keaton seems even more comfortable with the character than ever, so I'm not doubting he's happy with the performance. Bale said he didn't completely nail the role. I don't think Keaton would ever feel that way. I think the question was more about if he could still slip back into the suit decades later and recapture the magic.

It's interesting because in Returns he was worried about becoming a parody of what he did in 89 but then he had his "aha" moment and got right back in. It seems he did not have that here, granted it does seem like there is nostalgia tied to the suit, which is very much a Dark Knight Returns.

Since he is done filming I wonder if we'll get a reveal soon (granted I'd love it they'd keep him quiet until the film comes out but I am 100% sure that will not happen.

Really surprised we've only had a handful of Bruce Wayne pictures and some Batcave pictures leaked but none of Batman. I wonder if much of his stuff was filmed on a soundstage. The Glasgow loccation for Gotham is now clearly used for Affleck (he hasn't filmed his scenes yet apparently?) but that makes me wonder if Burtons Gotham will be CG and light set peices on a sound stage?

Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Thu, 19 Aug  2021, 14:57
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu, 19 Aug  2021, 01:50
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 18 Aug  2021, 19:55
Still, I want to believe that he sandbagged the story about the Vulture for comedic effect. Because the idea of parallel universes has existed in fiction (and the general lexicon) for decades (if not longer) so it surprises me that he apparently doesn't grasp the concept.
He probably has a general idea but doesn't have any serious interest in comics or their storytelling devices. Like Romero, he probably just needs to know his lines and his character's motivation. I'm well versed in the multiverse concept, obviously, but still had to wrap my head around the idea Keaton's universe isn't a self contained bubble which loosely continued onwards with BF and B&R. Because things have been that way for 30 years. The Flash movie changes that idea forever.

Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Thu, 19 Aug  2021, 01:38
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/michael-keaton-on-reviving-batman-the-protege-worth-dopestick-1234998480/

according to Hollywood Reporter, keatons done filming his scenes for Flash
Hoping for the best, because it's all in the can now. Keaton seems even more comfortable with the character than ever, so I'm not doubting he's happy with the performance. Bale said he didn't completely nail the role. I don't think Keaton would ever feel that way. I think the question was more about if he could still slip back into the suit decades later and recapture the magic.

It's interesting because in Returns he was worried about becoming a parody of what he did in 89 but then he had his "aha" moment and got right back in. It seems he did not have that here, granted it does seem like there is nostalgia tied to the suit, which is very much a Dark Knight Returns.

Since he is done filming I wonder if we'll get a reveal soon (granted I'd love it they'd keep him quiet until the film comes out but I am 100% sure that will not happen.

Really surprised we've only had a handful of Bruce Wayne pictures and some Batcave pictures leaked but none of Batman. I wonder if much of his stuff was filmed on a soundstage. The Glasgow loccation for Gotham is now clearly used for Affleck (he hasn't filmed his scenes yet apparently?) but that makes me wonder if Burtons Gotham will be CG and light set peices on a sound stage?

I suspect you'll get a little something at Fandom considering the original segment leaked. It will probably not be very much, maybe a single photo that reveals Bruce in a professional promo. I say that because I think WB is going to be very keen not spoil us with too much Keaton as Matt Reeves' The Batman is being touted as the main attraction. Too much Keaton will steal the thunder and undermine this project which is still being considered the prime Batman real estate moving forward.

Quote from: Gotham Knight on Thu, 19 Aug  2021, 18:33
Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Thu, 19 Aug  2021, 14:57
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu, 19 Aug  2021, 01:50
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 18 Aug  2021, 19:55
Still, I want to believe that he sandbagged the story about the Vulture for comedic effect. Because the idea of parallel universes has existed in fiction (and the general lexicon) for decades (if not longer) so it surprises me that he apparently doesn't grasp the concept.
He probably has a general idea but doesn't have any serious interest in comics or their storytelling devices. Like Romero, he probably just needs to know his lines and his character's motivation. I'm well versed in the multiverse concept, obviously, but still had to wrap my head around the idea Keaton's universe isn't a self contained bubble which loosely continued onwards with BF and B&R. Because things have been that way for 30 years. The Flash movie changes that idea forever.

Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Thu, 19 Aug  2021, 01:38
https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/movies/movie-features/michael-keaton-on-reviving-batman-the-protege-worth-dopestick-1234998480/

according to Hollywood Reporter, keatons done filming his scenes for Flash
Hoping for the best, because it's all in the can now. Keaton seems even more comfortable with the character than ever, so I'm not doubting he's happy with the performance. Bale said he didn't completely nail the role. I don't think Keaton would ever feel that way. I think the question was more about if he could still slip back into the suit decades later and recapture the magic.

It's interesting because in Returns he was worried about becoming a parody of what he did in 89 but then he had his "aha" moment and got right back in. It seems he did not have that here, granted it does seem like there is nostalgia tied to the suit, which is very much a Dark Knight Returns.

Since he is done filming I wonder if we'll get a reveal soon (granted I'd love it they'd keep him quiet until the film comes out but I am 100% sure that will not happen.

Really surprised we've only had a handful of Bruce Wayne pictures and some Batcave pictures leaked but none of Batman. I wonder if much of his stuff was filmed on a soundstage. The Glasgow loccation for Gotham is now clearly used for Affleck (he hasn't filmed his scenes yet apparently?) but that makes me wonder if Burtons Gotham will be CG and light set peices on a sound stage?

I suspect you'll get a little something at Fandom considering the original segment leaked. It will probably not be very much, maybe a single photo that reveals Bruce in a professional promo. I say that because I think WB is going to be very keen not spoil us with too much Keaton as Matt Reeves' The Batman is being touted as the main attraction. Too much Keaton will steal the thunder and undermine this project which is still being considered the prime Batman real estate moving forward.

Do hope you're right! Thats the perfect balance and I don't want too much Keaton revelas before the movie comes out

Keaton expresses satisfaction with his introductory scene, and mentions a Burton influence. It may have been Silver who guessed it could involve Barry walking into the cave, which has strong B89 influences, and noticing the Burtonmobile sitting there. Some kind of surprise reveal, sneaking up on Barry or activating a security measure, would be grand.

It's hard to know just how much Keaton has filmed when we have nothing to go on. I'd have to imagine it's worthwhile. If he shares the screen with another Batman he's already done so. Apparently Affleck starts filming in September, so that itself raises questions. ViewerAnon claims Ben isn't in the film much and "he's basically doing it as a gift to fans so he doesn't just vanish before Keaton takes over in the DCEU." The Batcycle content has already been filmed, which didn't require Ben, and would only require closeups.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu, 19 Aug  2021, 22:42
Keaton expresses satisfaction with his introductory scene, and mentions a Burton influence. It may have been Silver who guessed it could involve Barry walking into the cave, which has strong B89 influences, and noticing the Burtonmobile sitting there. Some kind of surprise reveal, sneaking up on Barry or activating a security measure, would be grand.

It's hard to know just how much Keaton has filmed when we have nothing to go on. I'd have to imagine it's worthwhile. If he shares the screen with another Batman he's already done so. Apparently Affleck starts filming in September, so that itself raises questions. ViewerAnon claims Ben isn't in the film much and "he's basically doing it as a gift to fans so he doesn't just vanish before Keaton takes over in the DCEU." The Batcycle content has already been filmed, which didn't require Ben, and would only require closeups.

That reminds me of Suicide Squad (ironically the early leaks being a Batman chase) which was also all a double. There's also a rumor that he's writing more stuff to include his Batman in (though that seems like a rumor). I'm justing interested if Keaton (and or Affleck) will obsorb Cyborgs dialogue/plot points.

A rumor is making the rounds that claims that Rudy Mancuso is Doctor Alchemy, which resurrects an older rumor about the villains being made mostly up of second tier people and that Mirror Master 2 (daughter of original who was a Keaton villain) is among them. It appears that these metas will be lead by evil Barry or are associated with evil Barry via universe because this older rumor previously asserted that these characters would all be native to Earth-89, and that we are seeing where Earth-89 is 30 years down the lane.

Black Flash continues to float around in the mill. Black Flash and a gender bent Mirror Master were some of the earliest confirmed villains. Black Flash was in at least two of the former drafts that were officially confirmed to be real.