The Flash (2022)

[Gotham Knight]

[Gotham Knight]

While a lot of people are theorizing that this is confirmation of an appearance by the Earth 52 Batman (Red Death), I believe this is only a nod to that. What I think has happened is Barry needs a Flash suit, so he borrows the old Returns costume and hastily re purposes it as a Flash costume. I think it kicks ass. 

[Travesty]

I'm not sure what it means? They did say Barry will get a new suit from Batman, so maybe Batman just loaned him a Batsuit and he colored over it?

[The Dark Knight]

I'm not sure what it means? They did say Barry will get a new suit from Batman, so maybe Batman just loaned him a Batsuit and he colored over it?

Seems like a good guess. A more practical and believable thing to do, especially if time is of the essence.

[Gotham Knight]

It is being reported that Ben Affleck shot his scenes in less than a week.

[thecolorsblend]

Seems like a good guess. A more practical and believable thing to do, especially if time is of the essence.

Also, I like the visual metaphor of blending those two universes together.

Personally, I never needed Keaton's Batman to interact with the rest of the DC Universe. But since it's happening anyway, yeah, I'm enjoying it.

[The Dark Knight]

It is being reported that Ben Affleck shot his scenes in less than a week.

And with that, Affleck's time in the role could very well be over. My hopes for a continuation of some kind on HBO Max have cratered. ZSJL popularity obviously didn't matter. Unless there's a surprise announcement in the coming weeks or months, it seems the plan was set in stone. Release the Snyder cut, label it a trilogy and move on from there.

[Gotham Knight]

The latest rumors I'm hearing assert that Earth-89 is indeed the universe that Barry is visiting and that Supergirl is a native of the Burton-verse. It is being reported that HBO MAX is developing a Supergirl show for Sasha Calle (which was at first supposed to be a film) and that this show will serve as a prequel to the Flash. Michael Keaton is supposed to appear.

This might actually be good news for you Affleck gits. This seems to indicate that while these characters are getting a spotlight, it might not mean they are rewriting the DCEU, just visiting other verses. Which is something DC does anyway IE Titans and Doom Patrol.

[thecolorsblend]

What exactly are we seeing here?

Because historically, The Company Formerly Known As WB didn't like having competing versions of the same character going up against each other. The Company Formerly Known As WB had some involvement in the "Bruce Wayne prequel show" mutating into Smallville. Their fear was that a TV show like that might be unwanted competition from the movie franchise they were attempting to relaunch.

TCFKAWB's fears were arguably justified when Superman Returns premiered and Smallville's core fanbase either ignored or actively opposed it while SR's fanbase rebelled against Smallville.

And yet, what we're seeing now is multiple Batmen and multiple other characters too, possibly.

With the Reevesverse, it looks to me like the play is developing a sort of "shared universe" around Batman. A space for the Penguin, a space for Gordon/GCPD, etc. Presumably, the Reevesverse will only expand from there. This camp seems to be positioning their version of the Batman as a standalone character in his own immaculate universe similar to Nolan.

And yet, now there's a competing Batman (arguably two if Affleck still counts) (and who even knows anymore?) that could have his own big screen thing going on. This camp seems to be positioning their version of Batman as a character in a multiverse populated with numerous other DC heroes.

If I didn't know better, I'd think there's some sort of internecine conflict going on between at least two competing camps in this new business empire, whatever it's even called anymore. They don't seem to be on the same page, they don't seem to have the same goals and they don't seem very friendly toward one another.

And we're not even counting the "Phillipverse" and the still possible JOKER sequel that might be coming along, which is probably it's own challenge.

Am I misreading this? Or does there seem to be two sides here and each side is determined to p!$$ in the other side's cornflakes?

[The Dark Knight]

Seems to me it's all about the Affleck situation. A solo Batman movie was planned, but then for a variety of reasons Ben didn't factor in to it. With Batman as a big bankable property the studio didn't waste any time in moving ahead with someone new. In the meantime leaving the overall DCEU plans vague before they decided what to do. Thus the two filmic universes were created.