Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

Started by The Laughing Fish, Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:52

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Craig Mazin, who was the showrunner and writer for the HBO Chernobyl mini-series, revealed that Snyder approached him to do rewrites while he was involved in the production. Mazin expressed his appreciation for the cut as well.

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I saw the Zack Snyder cut back when he was working on it. Because they were talking about maybe doing a week or reshoots or something like that. And so he invited two or three – I think there were three or four of us, writers, to watch the movie in the state it was in and then just have a conversation about some things that they might be able to do to tweak some things up over the course of a week of writing.

And I, you know me, I'm not like a huge superhero movie guy, but I really liked it. I liked it. I thought it was really good. I thought there were a couple things, like OK here's some suggestions and things. And then Zack left the project. And so that was it. Literally, I think he left like the next week. And I never saw the Joss Whedon version.

https://screenrant.com/zack-snyder-justice-league-reshoots-2017-craig-mazin/

I read this and think back to the time when that crook Emmerich promised how Whedon would stay true to what Snyder wanted, and can't help but still feel disgusted. Worse, the tampering behind the scenes still happened even when ZSJL was getting finished. Disgraceful.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Jared Leto shared this cool fan made poster on his Instagram stories a few days ago.



Now ZSJL is finally available to buy on physical home video in the US. Three months after most countries, if not all, had been sold in retail.

Is there a good reason for this strangely late distribution, or is it more f***ery from Warner Butchers? I can't help but suspect it's the latter.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Pathetic, petty Warner Butchers are at it. Just when you think they couldn't have sunken to a new low after posting that spiteful Josstice L 4K Ultra Blu Ray trailer five months ago.

Two weeks ago, the official Warner Bros. Entertainment YouTube channel uploaded a TV ad promoting the 4K Ultra Blu Ray release of ZSJL, but they kept the ad as "unlisted". This means the ad is hidden from the channel's video tab, and it doesn't appear in search results either.



More people are beginning to notice how this wretched studio is trying to bury this movie despite the fact that it's making money. Such as this Twitter account:

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So apparently @warnerbros unlisted any #SnyderCut related videos. They really don't realize the audience for those films are actually bigger than they think

It's frustrating that the Snyder cut had a bad marketing campaign. If it had a good campaign, I think the movie would have performed much better (not to say it didn't)

https://twitter.com/bigscreenleaks/status/1435763760057274372

Oh, WB definitely knows very well the audience for Snyder's movies are big. It's just that they're spiteful, worthless scumbags. There is word going around on Twitter saying places like Best Buy were given short supply of copies to sell:

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I have to say: I wasn't shocked when I got an email from Best Buy last night saying my pre-ordered steelbook of ZSJL wasn't going to arrive today. Just as I wasn't surprised it took like three extra weeks to get a UHD of the remastered BVS.

WB just ... doesn't seem to care.

https://twitter.com/SonnyBunch/status/1435410360262144010

When you're starting to see skeptics such as this YouTuber - who doubted the Snyder cut even existed - now calling out the likes of Toby Emmerich for dragging the studio's name through the mud by trying to sabotage the film's success, you know it's a bad look.

https://twitter.com/snyder_all/status/1435599615961731072

Never in my life have I seen business people desperately trying to cut off their noses to spite their own faces. I'll say it again: Emmerich and all of those other saboteurs must be FIRED immediately.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

I'm out when it comes to most physical media. I usually prefer buying movies on iTunes or Apple TV or whatever tf they want to call it this week. But ZSJL isn't up there to be purchased. To be fair to all parties concerned, the press releases have only specified a Blu-Ray release. But still, for basically every other movie, "Blu-Ray release date" is practically a euphemism for "Apple TV too". But clearly, that's not the case with ZSJL.

And it's funny too. Because back when Superman Returns came out and tanked back in 2006, Bryan Singer wasted no time in throwing the marketing department under the bus... even tho the marketing department is probably the only reason SR's paltry opening weekend was as relatively good as it was. The trailers, TV spots and other promotional stuff gave would-be viewers a fairly decent idea of what the movie would be. Which is just about the most you can ask for any marketing effort.

The real issue is that SR was just a crap movie and most people weren't interested in seeing it. It had nothing to do with bad marketing and everything to do with a bad movie.

And yet, ZSJL has tons of interest. It's a quality product. But it truly IS saddled with bad marketing. Or sabotage, if that works better for you. And yet, it's rising to the top anyway because people are interested in it.

I maintain that this rly does look like a black eye for AT&T. I, for one, expected better from them. And who knows? They may still surprise me. But a lot of damage has been done and a lot of good will has been lost. This won't be easy to come back from. And the Snyderverse is facing enough challenges as it is.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Thu,  9 Sep  2021, 12:24
I'm out when it comes to most physical media. I usually prefer buying movies on iTunes or Apple TV or whatever tf they want to call it this week. But ZSJL isn't up there to be purchased. To be fair to all parties concerned, the press releases have only specified a Blu-Ray release. But still, for basically every other movie, "Blu-Ray release date" is practically a euphemism for "Apple TV too". But clearly, that's not the case with ZSJL.

And it's funny too. Because back when Superman Returns came out and tanked back in 2006, Bryan Singer wasted no time in throwing the marketing department under the bus... even tho the marketing department is probably the only reason SR's paltry opening weekend was as relatively good as it was. The trailers, TV spots and other promotional stuff gave would-be viewers a fairly decent idea of what the movie would be. Which is just about the most you can ask for any marketing effort.

The real issue is that SR was just a crap movie and most people weren't interested in seeing it. It had nothing to do with bad marketing and everything to do with a bad movie.

And yet, ZSJL has tons of interest. It's a quality product. But it truly IS saddled with bad marketing. Or sabotage, if that works better for you. And yet, it's rising to the top anyway because people are interested in it.

Let's face it, hesitating to call this a sabotage is only playing down the severity of the situation and the entire history surrounding this movie adaptation of JL to come out. But yes, you're definitely right that this movie is rising very high. At the time of writing, the 4K Ultra HD, standard Blu Ray and "trilogy" sets are among the top selling Blu Rays on Amazon.



Not to mention the film had been leading the UK's Official Film Chart in digital downloads for many consecutive weeks this year.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Thu,  9 Sep  2021, 12:24
I maintain that this rly does look like a black eye for AT&T. I, for one, expected better from them. And who knows? They may still surprise me. But a lot of damage has been done and a lot of good will has been lost. This won't be easy to come back from. And the Snyderverse is facing enough challenges as it is.

I've been thinking about this too, and it's a more than valid point.

I've heard of rumours that AT&T stepped in to stop The Flash movie from making any attempts to belittle or erase the Snyderverse timeline. Okay...so why doesn't the parent company step in and keep WB in check to produce and distribute its own product properly? The fact there's a new merger underway must mean there are some serious organisational issues we're not aware of. It doesn't help that HBO Max's international distribution is excluded from a lot of overseas markets which impacts its growth.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

AT&T may make meaningful positive change. But timing is everything when it comes to cinema. Esp big budget cinema.

And sadly (or not), I think comic book cinema's most successful days are behind it. Yes, there's probably still oodles of money to be made. But even tho I don't hold Endgame in any particularly high regard, it was still a watershed moment for a lot of people. I think Endgame is rly looking like the moment when people finally got their fill of comic book movies.

Bringing the Snyderverse back in TODAY'S market is a gigantic set of logistical hurdles with, I think, lower chances for ROI. And that's if they AT&T/WME were to hit the ground running RIGHT NOW and have a new Snyder film ready in the next two years. Which is impossible, let's be realistic here.

The ship may not have fully sailed yet with comic book films. But it's getting there. It's definitely left the dock, if you ask me.

I found out Warner Butchers uploaded and hid ​the same ad TWICE.

"youtu.be/elXO_nMCYYg"
"youtu.be/Akp5FC-RiDQ&t"

I have never seen a company that is so anti-business in my whole life.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 12 Sep  2021, 02:48
AT&T may make meaningful positive change. But timing is everything when it comes to cinema. Esp big budget cinema.

And sadly (or not), I think comic book cinema's most successful days are behind it. Yes, there's probably still oodles of money to be made. But even tho I don't hold Endgame in any particularly high regard, it was still a watershed moment for a lot of people. I think Endgame is rly looking like the moment when people finally got their fill of comic book movies.

Maybe there's another reason why live action superhero content is slowly migrating to streaming services. If what you say is true then expect budgets to become progressively cheaper going forward.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 12 Sep  2021, 02:48
Bringing the Snyderverse back in TODAY'S market is a gigantic set of logistical hurdles with, I think, lower chances for ROI. And that's if they AT&T/WME were to hit the ground running RIGHT NOW and have a new Snyder film ready in the next two years. Which is impossible, let's be realistic here.

The ship may not have fully sailed yet with comic book films. But it's getting there. It's definitely left the dock, if you ask me.

If we're led to believe this rumour, Walter Hamada is desperate to greenlight another JL movie to save his job, but he is allegedly already losing his grip now the studio is in the middle of a merger. Including The Flash is rumoured to be following ZSJL as canon and disregarding Josstice L, and any JL would have to adhere to ZSJL.



Mikey Sutton has been saying the same thing, but I'll let time reveal if whether or not this is all true. Should there be ZSJL Part 2, the home video and digital sales will be crucial.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

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'Zack Snyder's Justice League' Dominates Disc Sales

Zack Snyder's Justice League easily took the top spot on both the NPD VideoScan First Alert chart, which tracks combined DVD and Blu-ray Disc unit sales, and the dedicated Blu-ray Disc sales chart the week ended Sept. 11.

The four-hour director's cut of the 2017 superhero team-up Justice League, distributed by Warner Bros. Home Entertainment, outsold the No. 2 title by a 5-to-1 margin.

Snyder's re-edited and extended version of the DC Comics adaptation, which he couldn't finish in 2017, serves as the sequel to his 2013 film Man of Steel and its 2016 follow-up Batman v Superman: Dawn of Justice, and was first released on the HBO Max streaming service in March.

Blu-ray Disc formats accounted for 75% of Zack Snyder's Justice League first-week unit sales, with 38% of its total tally coming specifically from 4K Ultra HD Blu-ray (meaning 37% was regular Blu-ray and 25% was DVD).

A trilogy collection of all three of Snyder's DC films was No. 14 on the Blu-ray Disc chart.

The previous week's top overall disc seller, Warner's The Conjuring: The Devil Made Me Do It, dropped to No. 2 on the overall chart. The third "Conjuring" movie was down one spot on the Blu-ray Disc chart to No. 4.

Lionsgate's Hitman's Wife's Bodyguard was the No. 3 overall disc seller and the No. 2 Blu-ray.

https://www.mediaplaynews.com/zack-snyders-justice-league-dominates-disc-sales/

Despite Warner's intentional lack of marketing, ZSJL is doing very good business. Any other normal businesspeople in charge of the studio would've been very pleased with this news. Emmerich and co, on the other hand, would rather leave money on the table.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 14 Sep  2021, 09:39
I have never seen a company that is so anti-business in my whole life.

Yeah, you've been on top of this, and the amount of distain, even in the face of actual PROFIT, that this company has displayed, is literally outrageous.


Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 17 Sep  2021, 16:29
Despite Warner's intentional lack of marketing, ZSJL is doing very good business. Any other normal businesspeople in charge of the studio would've been very pleased with this news. Emmerich and co, on the other hand, would rather leave money on the table.

Glad to see ZSJL sales being substantially great. Wonder what the sales could've been with a actual legitimate push in marketing? Stay classy, Warner's.
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