Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

Started by The Laughing Fish, Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:52

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Cyborg character teaser.

QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue,  9 Mar  2021, 05:22
I could actually see this being a legit accident. If it was the full movie, maybe I'd say different. But it looks like it was incomplete even with the longest reports.
It's either incompetence or malicious sour grapes and shouldn't happen in any case.

WB already said ZSJL is a dead end and it hasn't even been officially released yet. They wanted Zack to release an unedited rough cut of the film instead of polishing it. That informs my knowledge enough to say WB are going along with the rollout but they don't have their heart in it.

Expect ZSJL 'complaints' to be the same old stuff reheated over and over without context.

This comment from ScreenRant:
QuoteDuring the action of Justice League's latest trailer, when Batman is shown swinging onto the tower against parademons, a giant gun/turret is briefly visible in the background. Thanks to concept art and confirmation from Zack Snyder on the social network Vero, viewers have known for a while now that Batman will use this anti-aircraft sized cannon to shoot down a bunch of parademons. It's an impressive piece of lethal hardware that Ben Affleck's antihero will be wielding according to the trailer, but there's no question Zack Snyder's decision to double down on arming Batman to the nines will spark more mixed reaction across the character's sizeable fandom.

Killing a Parademon is the equivalent of squashing a bug or swatting a fly. Batman is the better fighter and can grind out a victory, but backup like the Knightcrawler is required to really compete and save time. How else can a mortal man fend off things double his strength, taking out dozens at once when surrounded? If a section of the fandom takes issue with this they're a lost cause.

Darkseid and Steppenwolf share their own character teaser.



I've been reading lots of gatekeepers tweeting how Snyder "doesn't get" Darkseid because they don't like the character design, so it's amusing to me that Jack Kirby's grandson Jeremy gave his seal of approval.

Quote from: Zack Snyder
Quote from: Jeremy Kirby
Thank you @ZackSnyder
Honored to represent. #Darkseid #DeSaad

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1369725090980528129

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Thu,  4 Mar  2021, 11:02
Zack Snyder to Receive Honor From Hollywood Critics Association (Exclusive)

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/news/zack-snyder-to-receive-honor-from-hollywood-critics-association-exclusive

Here is the video of Snyder accepting the Valiant Award, paying tribute to the fans who have donated to the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention.

QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Mon,  8 Mar  2021, 00:49I hold out hope Zack gets to adapt his original plan in animation, comics or whatever else in the future, but I feel it's going to be a tough fight. HBO Max need to put their foot down if ZSJL is as big as I expect.
Grace Randolph has access to Snyder, so her scoops there have been accurate. She has now tweeted multiple sources are saying "JL2 and 3 might now be possible" and "some suits want Snyder to direct Wonder Woman 3". Hell to the yes with the full Justice League arc being completed. I wouldn't say no to Zack helming WW3, but the original story arc would be my priority. Who knows? The answer remains the same: support ZSJL like crazy and make the idea of ignoring this hot product insanity. One week to go, fam.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu, 11 Mar  2021, 23:02
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Mon,  8 Mar  2021, 00:49I hold out hope Zack gets to adapt his original plan in animation, comics or whatever else in the future, but I feel it's going to be a tough fight. HBO Max need to put their foot down if ZSJL is as big as I expect.
Grace Randolph has access to Snyder, so her scoops there have been accurate. She has now tweeted multiple sources are saying "JL2 and 3 might now be possible" and "some suits want Snyder to direct Wonder Woman 3". Hell to the yes with the full Justice League arc being completed. I wouldn't say no to Zack helming WW3, but the original story arc would be my priority. Who knows? The answer remains the same: support ZSJL like crazy and make the idea of ignoring this hot product insanity. One week to go, fam.
Mmm, still not sure how that would work without a theatrical release.

My assumption is that mega budget blockbusters are unlikely until gigantic opening weekends are possible once more. We'll see tho, CGI costs are a lot lower now than they were just a few years ago. But maybe I'm wrong and there's a way to do big budget stuff that I'm overlooking.

I'm trying to wrap my head around where it would fit in terms of continuity and platform. HBO Max seems the logical destination rather than cinemas. If HBO Max makes a ton of cash it provides confidence more films would have the same response.

The DCEU is continuing with Michael Keaton and tying up the original Snyderverse plan.
Affleck is appearing in Flashpoint, but under what circumstances? To be killed off?

Does a Snyderverse continuation work within that Batfleck Flashpoint appearance or ignore it, and just continue after ZSJL?

I'd rather the Flashpoint appearance end with Batfleck being consigned to his own universe, allowing Flashpoint to remain canon, while continuing the original JL2/JL3 timeline separately. The mess would be if League members such as Momoa, Gadot, Miller, etc keep appearing in live action films with Keaton.

Joe Manganiello revealed his role as Deathstroke had been cut from several projects during the sabotage of the DCEU. Other than Affleck's Batman project getting scrapped in early 2017, a solo Deathstroke film was tossed aside, as well as his appearance in a Suicide Squad sequel; which he was supposed to face off against Will Smith's Deadshot.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.hollywoodreporter.com/amp/heat-vision/how-joe-manganiellos-deathstroke-ideas-seeped-into-zack-snyders-justice-league

Manganiello also participated in another interview with Ray Fisher, who spoke about the difficult transition between Snyder leaving and Whedon's involvement.

Fisher even alleged that Whedon carried his burden and frustration over people's criticism of Age of Ultron, and claims that was why he recycled the joke of Flash falling on top of Wonder Woman, as Bruce Banner did to Natasha Romanoff. Even got to a point when Whedon called Wonder Woman "Natasha".

https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/03/ray-fisher-justice-league-joe-manganiello-batman-deathstroke-cyborg
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Final trailer is here.

QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei


Just a few more days. That trailer is a good reminder of just how much new stuff we're in for.