Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

Started by The Laughing Fish, Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:52

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Great news:

Quote from: Zack Snyder
Zack Snyder's Justice League will be available worldwide in all markets on the same day as in the U.S. on March 18 via on-demand, digital download, linear, or streaming. #SnyderCut #SnydercutWorldwide (1/2)

Platform availability will depend on each territory (with the exception of China, France, and Japan, where the release dates are TBD). Additional details for specific markets will be shared soon. (2/2)

https://www.twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1362778284895858692

I've read elsewhere that Australia and New Zealand will stream ZSJL on March 18th via Binge and Neon. Nice. I expect the official site will update its list of territories very soon.

https://zacksnydersjusticeleague.dcuniverseinfinite.com/
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Fri, 19 Feb  2021, 23:01
Great news:

Quote from: Zack Snyder
Zack Snyder's Justice League will be available worldwide in all markets on the same day as in the U.S. on March 18 via on-demand, digital download, linear, or streaming. #SnyderCut #SnydercutWorldwide (1/2)

Platform availability will depend on each territory (with the exception of China, France, and Japan, where the release dates are TBD). Additional details for specific markets will be shared soon. (2/2)

https://www.twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1362778284895858692

I've read elsewhere that Australia and New Zealand will stream ZSJL on March 18th via Binge and Neon. Nice. I expect the official site will update its list of territories very soon.

https://zacksnydersjusticeleague.dcuniverseinfinite.com/
I have to wonder if someone from AT&T thinks this is the tail wagging the dog.

Glad this is sorted for everyone and it's a universal release day instead of being staggered in different countries. No reason whatsoever for anyone to pirate the movie now. No one wanted to do that, but if you're left with no choice other options are going to be considered.

I have a very, very good feeling about this. I believe it's going to be a monster success financially, and WB are going to look insane by maintaining they're not interested in continuing the Snyderverse.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sat, 20 Feb  2021, 00:34
Glad this is sorted for everyone and it's a universal release day instead of being staggered in different countries. No reason whatsoever for anyone to pirate the movie now. No one wanted to do that, but if you're left with no choice other options are going to be considered.

I have a very, very good feeling about this. I believe it's going to be a monster success financially, and WB are going to look insane by maintaining they're not interested in continuing the Snyderverse.
I think a relevant question in all this is whether Snyder wants to come back. Finishing off a 90% completed movie is one thing. Coming back for new movies is something else. Maybe he's just been coy about it because conversations are already going on. But I, for one, question how much he wants to come back for more. Because even if he wins over a majority of fans with ZSJL, the knives will always be out as far as the critics are concerned.

Releasing ZSJL is sort of a power move. But making more movies after could be an unnecessary risk.

To be clear, I'd love for him to come back and tell the entire story he wanted to tell. I just see obstacles there. And this is before we even start talking about movie theaters.

While we wait for the movie, I think it's well worth revisiting the RTSC movement and what exactly "exists" and "completed" mean in reference to this movie. The semantics have been flying all over the place and so one intrepid blogger has put together the most comprehensive collection of quotes and sources I've ever seen for the Snyder Cut.

https://snyderverseanalysis.blogspot.com/2021/01/criticisms-of-releasethesnydercut-final.html

One interesting fact that's undeniable at this point is the movie that's coming in March 2021 is technically not the movie fans campaigned for. The cut of the movie Snyder was working on was the (relatively) shorter "all compromise" cut. Whereas the movie coming next month seemingly contains no compromises at all.

This fact doesn't seem to have been widely heralded among fans (at least that I've seen). So in reality, fans are getting so much more than they initially campaigned for. I rly appreciate that fact.

Nice, we'll be able to buy it. If it comes to 4K, I'll pick up a disc, but at least you can buy it digitally.

Grace Randolph claims some Hollywood executives think the demand for ZSJL is a coordinated effort by Russian bots. These people really are tone-deaf and out of touch with what people want, aren't they? They really need to get over their stupid egos, it will help them do good business in the long run.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 20 Feb  2021, 01:24
I think a relevant question in all this is whether Snyder wants to come back. Finishing off a 90% completed movie is one thing. Coming back for new movies is something else. Maybe he's just been coy about it because conversations are already going on. But I, for one, question how much he wants to come back for more. Because even if he wins over a majority of fans with ZSJL, the knives will always be out as far as the critics are concerned.

Releasing ZSJL is sort of a power move. But making more movies after could be an unnecessary risk.

To be clear, I'd love for him to come back and tell the entire story he wanted to tell. I just see obstacles there. And this is before we even start talking about movie theaters.

IIRC, I may have seen Snyder liking a couple of fans writing the hashtag #RestoreTheSnyderVerse on Vero. Make of that what you will.

But putting that aside, I do think there is some truth to what you're saying. Snyder and Netflix have a good relationship at the moment and that streaming service is throwing their support behind him by building a franchise around Army of the Dead, to the point that he will produce a prequel and anime spin-offs. That's not even taking into account of Snyder producing a Norse mythology anime series with Jay Oliva too.

If ZSJL is a success and AT&T/WarnerMedia wants to continue the Snyderverse, they would probably have to negotiate with Snyder. But would Snyder want to go back and risk getting burned by treacherous people in WB Pictures if they are still there and working against their parent company's interests? Could he risk his relationship with Netflix, who have shown him enormous goodwill thus far? Only he would know the answers.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 21 Feb  2021, 01:08
While we wait for the movie, I think it's well worth revisiting the RTSC movement and what exactly "exists" and "completed" mean in reference to this movie. The semantics have been flying all over the place and so one intrepid blogger has put together the most comprehensive collection of quotes and sources I've ever seen for the Snyder Cut.

https://snyderverseanalysis.blogspot.com/2021/01/criticisms-of-releasethesnydercut-final.html

One interesting fact that's undeniable at this point is the movie that's coming in March 2021 is technically not the movie fans campaigned for. The cut of the movie Snyder was working on was the (relatively) shorter "all compromise" cut. Whereas the movie coming next month seemingly contains no compromises at all.

This fact doesn't seem to have been widely heralded among fans (at least that I've seen). So in reality, fans are getting so much more than they initially campaigned for. I rly appreciate that fact.

That blog does a great job at tearing apart all the preconceptions about the status of the cut. Which incredibly, still exists to this day. I read several ignorant comments on social media claiming WB Pictures had been secretly remaking JL all along. Right, in a year full of lockdowns and restrictions, and with a budget of only $70 million that was reported for additional photography!

Deluded idiots.

To Zack and Deborah Snyder's credit, they campaigned hard to get the funding they needed to complete the film, whereas WB Pictures were eager to put the unfinished cut out there. Good on the couple for accomplishing their objective. I was very skeptical over the possibility to complete certain effects, i.e. adding Martian Manhunter, but I'm so glad to know I was wrong.

Speaking of Martian Manhunter, DC Comics is displaying new variant covers promoting ZSJL for the upcoming issue of Justice League. These were drawn by Jim Lee and Lee Bermejo.







https://www.dccomics.com/blog/2021/02/19/variant-covers-for-justice-league-59-inspired-by-zack-snyders-justice-league

Now that I've mentioned comics, Snyder revealed a week ago that he pitched a mini-series on the death of Robin within the DCEU continuity, but DC Comics declined.



According to that grifter and Geoff Johns buddy Ethan Van Sciver, this is based on the fallout behind the scenes of JL:

Quote
The reason why DC doesn't want to do anything with the Snyder cut is that whatever happened during the transition from Snyder to Whedon caused such conflict with the cast and the execs that they don't want to do business together.

https://twitter.com/EthanVanSciver/status/1362498454543601667
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 21 Feb  2021, 07:54Now that I've mentioned comics, Snyder revealed a week ago that he pitched a mini-series on the death of Robin within the DCEU continuity, but DC Comics declined.



According to that grifter and Geoff Johns buddy Ethan Van Sciver, this is based on the fallout behind the scenes of JL:

Quote
The reason why DC doesn't want to do anything with the Snyder cut is that whatever happened during the transition from Snyder to Whedon caused such conflict with the cast and the execs that they don't want to do business together.

https://twitter.com/EthanVanSciver/status/1362498454543601667
I rather enjoy EVS's recently released Cyberfrog comics. He's delivered quality products and reaped millions doing so. I don't agree with all his opinions but I'd hesitate to call him a grifter. Yeah, he's friends (somewhat) with Geoff Johns. But frankly, I have no major gripe against Johns the comic book writer. It's when you start getting into Geoff Johns the screenwriter, TV producer, movie producer, etc., that I have problems with his work.

As to the other, DC Comics has laid off the great majority of their staff at this point. Comics are being "edited" and "approved for publication" by twenty-something women who were basically interns just one year ago. AT&T has hollowed DC out like a Thanksgiving Day turkey. Right now, the name of the game at DC is survival. And releasing a Zack Snyder comic book could be a serious hot potato. Corporate politics is a very real thing and part of me can't blame DC too much for wanting to stay out of the blast zone, esp when they're already hanging on by their fingernails.

Word 'round the watercooler is that Steve Geppi and Robert Kirkman are vying against each other to license the entire DC universe under their own competing banners. Right now, some bean-counters at AT&T and Time-Warner Media are probably weighing their options.

With all that stuff happening in the background (drama between parent companies and competing buyout offers), if I'm a DC employee, I'm not doing ANYTHING to rock the boat right now.

Quote from: Travesty on Sun, 21 Feb  2021, 02:19
Nice, we'll be able to buy it. If it comes to 4K, I'll pick up a disc, but at least you can buy it digitally.
If any more trailers are released I'm not watching them. I'm going to ride this out. Not long to go now, and as soon as the movie is available I'm pressing play and demanding absolute silence. The only noise that will be allowed is my munching of popcorn.

I've been supervising popcorn deliveries the past week.



I should have it up to the ceiling by March 18.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 21 Feb  2021, 08:53
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 21 Feb  2021, 07:54Now that I've mentioned comics, Snyder revealed a week ago that he pitched a mini-series on the death of Robin within the DCEU continuity, but DC Comics declined.



According to that grifter and Geoff Johns buddy Ethan Van Sciver, this is based on the fallout behind the scenes of JL:

Quote
The reason why DC doesn't want to do anything with the Snyder cut is that whatever happened during the transition from Snyder to Whedon caused such conflict with the cast and the execs that they don't want to do business together.

https://twitter.com/EthanVanSciver/status/1362498454543601667
I rather enjoy EVS's recently released Cyberfrog comics. He's delivered quality products and reaped millions doing so. I don't agree with all his opinions but I'd hesitate to call him a grifter. Yeah, he's friends (somewhat) with Geoff Johns. But frankly, I have no major gripe against Johns the comic book writer. It's when you start getting into Geoff Johns the screenwriter, TV producer, movie producer, etc., that I have problems with his work.

My distaste for EVS has nothing to do with his art, which is exceptional. I simply don't care for him as a person, or for his YouTube content. Outrage clickbait horsesh*t. I agree with you about Johns as a comic boom writer, but as of now, I'm no hurry to read his material any time soon.

Meanwhile, Snyder sat down with Vanity Fair to talk about JL, coping with the death of his daughter Autumn, the struggles behind the scenes and the journey thus far. Other than the swipe at "toxic fans" and quotes from a Snyder hater, the article is worthwhile.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210222161550/https://www.vanityfair.com/hollywood/2021/02/the-true-story-of-justice-league-snyder-cut
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei