Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

Started by The Laughing Fish, Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:52

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Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 13 Feb  2021, 22:35
That reminds me of something I posted earlier in this thread.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 31 Jan  2021, 02:11
I live in America. Usually, I like watching movies on my computer. It's a preference thing.

I use Google Chrome and a while back, I installed a browser plugin called VeePN. It's a VPN that allows you to connect your browser to systems in other countries, giving the appearance of actually being in those countries even if you're not. For example, rn I can connect to IP addresses originating from London and Moscow. Comes in handy sometimes.

Also, there are two different locations right in the good ol' US of A.

Separately (tho tangentially related), you can log in to HBO Max through a web browser (such as Chrome).

People in places where distribution of ZSJL might be an issue can do whatever they want with this information.
You non-Americans can do whatever you want with that information.

I appreciate you sharing that info again. I remember sharing another alternative I found a couple of pages ago, but the Google Drive link has been removed.

It's still disappointing that international fans would have to find a workaround to watch ZSJL on time if other streaming services in various territories aren't available. It does make it harderfor wider audiences from seeing it so soon too. There are some territories like Canada, France and Asia that will watch the film on time, while India is working hard to sort out a deal, but Latin America will have to wait till they get HBO Max in June.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 14 Feb  2021, 00:07
All his comments about worldwide distribution seemed to be about the movie. But rly, unless I'm misunderstanding something, it seems like more of an issue of worldwide distribution for HBO Max. Because in theory, WB could make ZSJL available on Prime Video, Netflix, iTunes, et. al. in foreign territories and go on with life. Hell, they could probably work deals like that out tomorrow if they wanted to.

But we all know that HBO Max is the real driver behind the decision to complete ZSJL so distributing the movie on other platforms defeats the entire purpose of what they're trying to achieve.

People have criticized HBO Max for a botched rollout. I always thought stuff like that was a bit above my paygrade. But there does seem to be some mojo the idea that HBO Max could've been rolled out more smoothly with major kinks like international distribution ironed out either in advance or soon after its North American debut that a worldwide release of ZSJL would be a non-issue.

In this case, I think we would do well to attribute these problems to incompetence rather than malice.

Don't underestimate WB Pictures. Now yes, as I mentioned before, other broadcasters and streaming services have exclusive rights to WB/HBO content in some countries, and no doubt WarnerMedia's lack of planning ahead has made the situation difficult. But WB Pictures are conniving bastards. If their past history has shown us anything, a fan who is closely acquainted with Snyder claims WB Pictures and its dickhead chairman Toby Emmerich is still making things difficult behind the scenes.



You might think Emmerich shouldn't be too much of a problem if AT&T and WarnerMedia are calling the shots, and that might be true. But he has been given control to HBO Max content following a recent restructure at the corporate level, and he has consolidated some power. If ZSJL does well, he can be put into his place and be forced to greenlight more potential projects. I just don't like the fact it sounds like he's still trying to bury the project, and his history of lying about the Whedon reshoots lingers on in the memory. Don't forget that Godzilla vs Kong, which was originally going to debut a couple of months from now, got moved forward to a week after ZSJL comes out. How convenient.

With Emmerich's attitude and leaving fans hanging over wanting ZSJL, is it really surprising that him and his buddy Walter Hamada got the NY Times to describe ZSJL a "storytelling cul-de-sac - a street that leads nowhere"?

https://web.archive.org/web/20210102113130/https://www.nytimes.com/2020/12/27/business/media/dc-superheroes-movies.html

Well, according to Kevin Smith, he reckons the way ZSJL concludes is anything but leading to nowhere. Sigh. If there are any potential plans for the Snyderverse to continue in some capacity, let's hope they get protected by HBO Max and WB Pictures stay the hell away until the deadbeats are kicked out.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

To be fair to all parties involved, AT&T has waded into the movie business, an industry about which they knew little.

Now, I've championed AT&T many times around here for being outside the Hollywood cult and supremely unconcerned with such-and-such tradition or so-and-so's ego. But you take the good with the bad. Yes, AT&T is not controlled by conventional Hollywood politics. But what also means is they probably weren't fully prepared for the amount of bureaucratic resistance they might be facing.

Yes, they can remove the problematic elements. But that process takes time. And AT&T is fighting wars on multiple fronts. The reality is they've got other things on their collective plate besides ZSJL and HBO Max.

My point is that we need to give AT&T some time on this. As I've said before, AT&T is in business. They made their bones far outside the Hollyweird cult and it'll take them time to their ducks in a row. But if AT&T's history teaches us anything, it's that they're survivors and they will overcome. No matter how long it takes, no matter how much it costs, no matter how high the bodies have to get piled, AT&T will regulate on WB/DCE/whoever tf.

AT&T was willing to burn WB's bridges with Christopher Nolan to light their way. Ask yourself: if AT&T was willing to do that, what, are the troublesome characters you mention somehow magically protected? Not likely. If AT&T is willing to alienate Nolan (and they obviously were) then you'd better believe the saboteurs in their midst are on borrowed time.

My advice? Be patient, bro. In the world that AT&T knows, understands and has succeeded in, Emmerich, Hamada and everyone else's metaphorical graves have already been dug. And unfortunately for the soon-to-be metaphorical casualties, the world AT&T knows is the only world that matters anymore.

Keep the faith.




I don't think it's an exaggeration to say this looks like one of the best comic book movies of all time, DC related or otherwise. The visuals are out of this world and the runtime is literally bigger than Ben Hur.

"Imagination is a quality given a man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humour was provided to console him for what he is."

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 14 Feb  2021, 08:48
My advice? Be patient, bro. In the world that AT&T knows, understands and has succeeded in, Emmerich, Hamada and everyone else's metaphorical graves have already been dug. And unfortunately for the soon-to-be metaphorical casualties, the world AT&T knows is the only world that matters anymore.

Keep the faith.

Your words have been very comforting, colors. Thanks for the reply, I do appreciate it.

At the time of writing, the trailer is trending between the top two places on YouTube, with over 7.5 million views and counting. I heard WB Pictures released another trailer for Godzilla vs Kong to distract attention from ZSJL, but it backfired. Good, many more people outside of the Snyder cut community are calling out WB's lack of support and worldwide distribution of the film. The closest I've seen of any promotion on the @warnerbros and @wbpictures accounts were retweets of the trailer from the HBO Max and official @snydercut accounts.

The trailer looks very good, and should more than confirm by now this is a completely different film from Josstice League, if the previous trailer wasn't enough to satisfy some people's tastes. Kal-El's black suit is fast becoming my favourite live-action Superman costume, Cyborg shows lots of promise and Batman seems to get involved in more action than most around here might've thought. I can't understand how anyone could complain about Darkseid looks. Just because he doesn't have bright blue and grey colours doesn't mean he looks nothing like the comics. And the more I see of Steppenwolf's original design in action, the more I'm impressed with how intimidating he looks. I'm very glad Snyder got the opportunity to restore it, it's something I only thought die-hard fans would've dreamed of.

I heard a lot of positive feedback over Leto's Knightmare Joker appearance, and places like Reddit are going crazy over his line "We live in a society". For those don't know, that line is an already established meme made popular a few years ago, and is often misattributed to the Joker.

https://knowyourmeme.com/memes/gamer-joker-gamers-rise-up-we-live-in-a-society

And now Snyder has made it canon for his Superman/JL saga.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei


Deborah Snyder was interviewed on the LightCast YouTube channel a couple of days ago. She mentioned how timestamp markers will be incorporated on HBO Max for those who aren't able to watch ZSJL for four hours straight, and spoke about the experience working on the additional photography - including Ben Affleck's enthusiastic return to the cowl.

QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei