Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

[The Dark Knight]

Snyder confirmed that's Granny Goodness on the right.



This is great too. Would be hilarious is Batfleck said "f*** it" and then manned the huge gun from the concept art. I actually think that could happen.

The anti-Snyder Superman crowd are bizarre because they seemingly don't want a real person, but a caricature. Real people go through various emotions just as Cavill's Superman does. Real people are happy, sad, thoughtful, angry and everything else. Nobody is ever just happy. When Superman is in battle he's not allowed to get into the action and grit his teeth? That makes him an evil wraith?

Some Superman fans just can't see what they have is great, and that they should be demanding more of it. Zack Snyder has done more than anyone in the modern times to push the character forward despite being bashed for somehow disrespecting him.

[thecolorsblend]

Snyder confirmed that's Granny Goodness on the right.



This is great too. Would be hilarious is Batfleck said "f*** it" and then manned the huge gun from the concept art. I actually think that could happen.

The anti-Snyder Superman crowd are bizarre because they seemingly don't want a real person, but a caricature. Real people go through various emotions just as Cavill's Superman does. Real people are happy, sad, thoughtful, angry and everything else. Nobody is ever just happy. When Superman is in battle he's not allowed to get into the action and grit his teeth? That makes him an evil wraith?

Some Superman fans just can't see what they have is great, and that they should be demanding more of it. Zack Snyder has done more than anyone in the modern times to push the character forward despite being bashed for somehow disrespecting him.

My view is there are a variety of ways to depict Superman. Fewer, I'd say, than Batman. But still, you have a remarkable amount of flexibility with Superman.

There's the lighthearted Christopher Reeve/Richard Donner approach, where Superman seems to understand his own legend but is still comfortable enough in his own skin to not be affected by it. That gives him a certain lightness of being. He can smile when he saves somebody because he knows he's done the right thing. And for him, that's as far as it needs to go.

There's also the Grant Morrison school, where he seems to exist almost on another level entirely than mankind. Oddly enough, that doesn't sever his ability to relate to mankind. On the contrary, his vast (even by Pre-Crisis standards) powers have allowed him a greater level of intimacy with the human race. He's not affected by the burden he carries because of his preternatural compassion and warmth.

Then you get into the Smallville seasons 01-10/Snyder department, where the character carries the weight of the world on his shoulders and is occasionally affected by it. He doesn't exist in a vacuum. His actions have consequences and he knows it. As much as he's driven to do the right thing, he's always keenly aware of the possibility of making mistakes. His entire existence is dedicated to an incredibly delicate balancing act of right action and awareness of his potential for error. Welling's take on the character is obviously different from Cavill's (which is as it should be) but both incarnations of the character exist in a world where the possibility of a good faith screwup is always present.

For my own part, I don't think Superman being fallible and being aware of his fallibility necessarily detracts from the character. Handled properly, you can develop a very rich and textured character.

I specify Smallville seasons 01-10 because the season 11 comic book showed Clark fully adjusted to his new identity. He has achieved a sort of zen-like detachment kinda sorta similar to Reeve in STM. It's an interesting approach to SUPERMAN but it's not one that I think works all that well for Smallville. Then again, the season 11 comic book was so (relatively) brief that there's an argument that this characterization of Smallville's Superman might've grown on me had the comic book continued into subsequent seasons. We'll never know.

[The Dark Knight]

For me it comes down to this: what Superman portrayal best suits the modern times?

For me, the answer is Earth One and Zack Snyder. The character will continue to be held back if the studio keeps listening to a fanbase that freaks out when Superman looks focused while fighting world ending threats. It's absurd to type it, but that's where we are. It's like getting picked apart for sweating while chopping wood in the sun. It's natural - it's what happens.

I essentially know how ZSJL will play out. But the biggest question for me is what Zack does with Clark Kent. He had a funeral at the end of BvS. It's a huge plot point, and for this to be a Superman trilogy I think it needs to be addressed in some way. I haven't heard anything concrete about it. Clark being found in rubble ala the Death of Superman arc? Or Clark going public and becoming Superman full time?

[The Laughing Fish]

Snyder has expressed some frustration about the lack of international distribution planned for ZSJL, but he does his best to give a diplomatic answer by saying the studio didn't anticipate the film is in high demand.

Of course, anyone who has a faint idea about the whole Snyder cut journey knows very well that WB are doing their best they can to sabotage its success. They knew damn well how many fans around the world had been campaigning for it over the last few years, and they would've continued to ignore it if it weren't for their higher-ups at AT&T. Sure, there are countries like the UK who have existing deals with Sky to distribute content, but to not act quickly on distribution sounds very deliberate.

Let's hope ZSJL becomes widely available on time on Google Play for every other who doesn't have a streaming service showing the film.

[thecolorsblend]

Snyder has expressed some frustration about the lack of international distribution planned for ZSJL, but he does his best to give a diplomatic answer by saying the studio didn't anticipate the film is in high demand.

Of course, anyone who has a faint idea about the whole Snyder cut journey knows very well that WB are doing their best they can to sabotage its success. They knew damn well how many fans around the world had been campaigning for it over the last few years, and they would've continued to ignore it if it weren't for their higher-ups at AT&T. Sure, there are countries like the UK who have existing deals with Sky to distribute content, but to not act quickly on distribution sounds very deliberate.

Let's hope ZSJL becomes widely available on time on Google Play for every other who doesn't have a streaming service showing the film.

That reminds me of something I posted earlier in this thread.

I live in America. Usually, I like watching movies on my computer. It's a preference thing.

I use Google Chrome and a while back, I installed a browser plugin called VeePN. It's a VPN that allows you to connect your browser to systems in other countries, giving the appearance of actually being in those countries even if you're not. For example, rn I can connect to IP addresses originating from London and Moscow. Comes in handy sometimes.

Also, there are two different locations right in the good ol' US of A.

Separately (tho tangentially related), you can log in to HBO Max through a web browser (such as Chrome).

People in places where distribution of ZSJL might be an issue can do whatever they want with this information.

You non-Americans can do whatever you want with that information.

[The Dark Knight]

Uh, we're getting the war Batmobile from TDK Returns.

[thecolorsblend]

Uh, we're getting the war Batmobile from TDK Returns.

That crashing sound you just heard was my interest in this movie suddenly breaking through the ceiling.

[BatmanFurst]

Snyder has expressed some frustration about the lack of international distribution planned for ZSJL, but he does his best to give a diplomatic answer by saying the studio didn't anticipate the film is in high demand.

Of course, anyone who has a faint idea about the whole Snyder cut journey knows very well that WB are doing their best they can to sabotage its success. They knew damn well how many fans around the world had been campaigning for it over the last few years, and they would've continued to ignore it if it weren't for their higher-ups at AT&T. Sure, there are countries like the UK who have existing deals with Sky to distribute content, but to not act quickly on distribution sounds very deliberate.

Let's hope ZSJL becomes widely available on time on Google Play for every other who doesn't have a streaming service showing the film.

I'm sorry to hear that. I wanted this thing to open big to show support for it. Of course this means that a large market will just stream it. I'm not going to say that it's WB conspiring against him because I'm not involved with WB in any way. I thought he gave a great answer about how there just wasn't enough time to fully plan worldwide distribution.

[thecolorsblend]

Snyder has expressed some frustration about the lack of international distribution planned for ZSJL, but he does his best to give a diplomatic answer by saying the studio didn't anticipate the film is in high demand.

Of course, anyone who has a faint idea about the whole Snyder cut journey knows very well that WB are doing their best they can to sabotage its success. They knew damn well how many fans around the world had been campaigning for it over the last few years, and they would've continued to ignore it if it weren't for their higher-ups at AT&T. Sure, there are countries like the UK who have existing deals with Sky to distribute content, but to not act quickly on distribution sounds very deliberate.

Let's hope ZSJL becomes widely available on time on Google Play for every other who doesn't have a streaming service showing the film.

I'm sorry to hear that. I wanted this thing to open big to show support for it. Of course this means that a large market will just stream it. I'm not going to say that it's WB conspiring against him because I'm not involved with WB in any way. I thought he gave a great answer about how there just wasn't enough time to fully plan worldwide distribution.

All his comments about worldwide distribution seemed to be about the movie. But rly, unless I'm misunderstanding something, it seems like more of an issue of worldwide distribution for HBO Max. Because in theory, WB could make ZSJL available on Prime Video, Netflix, iTunes, et. al. in foreign territories and go on with life. Hell, they could probably work deals like that out tomorrow if they wanted to.

But we all know that HBO Max is the real driver behind the decision to complete ZSJL so distributing the movie on other platforms defeats the entire purpose of what they're trying to achieve.

People have criticized HBO Max for a botched rollout. I always thought stuff like that was a bit above my paygrade. But there does seem to be some mojo the idea that HBO Max could've been rolled out more smoothly with major kinks like international distribution ironed out either in advance or soon after its North American debut that a worldwide release of ZSJL would be a non-issue.

In this case, I think we would do well to attribute these problems to incompetence rather than malice.

[The Dark Knight]

The new trailer comes out during Valentines Day. I won't elaborate but man, the day is suicide fuel. I'll take the trailer and then hope I can quickly move ahead from there. I'm not going to fly out over Gotham Harbor with a nuclear bomb or anything, but pieces of entertainment like ZSJL help keep me going. The international release schedule really is out of Zack's control, and he has to answer carefully. He did a pretty good job at it, too. There's history between him and the studio, but he's still working with them nonetheless. It's a tightrope. I think the studio has genuine reason for some of the complications, with other deals being made with HBO Max providers that don't lapse for another year. I think a cinema release would be one of the few ways around things if Google Play doesn't come to the party.