Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

[The Laughing Fish]

Appreciate you dropping some knowledge with the VeePN post, Colors. I'll have to look into that.

I concur, though any VPN you sign up for should permit you to subscribe to HBO Max. I saw a fan on Twitter who offered another option to subscribe to HBO Max:

https://docs.google.com/document/d/1FmYBoAw0BFuQ84bKWAcGtRZjl_Nsid0P8gAd6K4ETO0/edit#heading=h.i3vu43742z1

I never knew the Opera browser has an in-built VPN.

Also, has there been anymore news/updates on a possible physical media release of the ZSJL lately? I seem to remember reading somewhere that there was a plan to have the blu/4K release to coincide (or relatively soon after) with the HBO Max release date, but haven't heard anything more about it as of late ...

I heard of that too, but I reckon it's a rumour. I don't really expect a home video release till maybe later in the year. Although, I did see ZSJL was listed on Google Play Movies a month ago, but it had been taken down, presumably because of distribution issues that still need to be cleared up.

The official HBO Max PR Twitter account has been assuring fans that they'll quickly hurry up on distributing internationally, but I reckon the issue is WarnerMedia put themselves at a disadvantage by not planning ahead when they decided to enter the streaming market.

This article details some of the regions who are able to see ZSJL in time.

https://www.criticalhit.net/entertainment/zack-snyders-justice-league-official-hbo-max-release-date-and-international-rollout-plans-revealed/

Meanwhile, visual effects producer Tamara Watts Kent went on Instagram post this tribute to Snyder and the journey to complete the cut.

What this image means to me. In 2019 Zack invited me to his screening room to see his cut of Justice League. It was in black and white and it did exist. It was over 3 hours long, full of previsualization and work in progress effects along with finished visual effects. At times Zack had to clarify what I was looking at. Yet the story kept my attention the entire time. We then had follow up meetings and scrubbed the reels talking about his vision for the film and the visual effects work that would need to be done to see his complete vision on screen. DJ & I put together a budget & schedule for VFX and Zack pitched it.

Nothing like this has ever been done before. We figured it would never happen. Then COVID hit. Zack had a film that was already shot. Post can be done safely at home and the VFX companies needed the work. On April 30th we were surprised and thrilled to hear the film was a go.

It has been the most challenging project I have ever been on. We had 6 months to do 4 hours of effects work. Every shot had to be researched to see if it was a previous Zack final to finish the full frame, or a work in progress shot from the past that could be unarchived and finished, or a brand new shot. The facilities spent over a month pulling shots & assets from their archives while WB pulled assets from theirs.

ZSJL has also been the most fun & rewarding project I have been on. Zack, Debbie & Wes are the best people to work with. They have always treated their crews like family. They are respectful, inspiring, fun & trusting. Zack knows what he wants and is the first to admit if it is not working.

DJ and I were blessed to bring most of our VFX team along. We could not have hit this schedule & delivered Zack's complete vision without them. They kept the show moving forward and dug up archived material we thought would be impossible to find. This team delivered over 2,500 shots in 7 months! This is unheard of.

I am sad to see this project end, but am so grateful to have the opportunity to be a part of it. I did this for Zack, the Snyder family and DJ, and for the fans that fought for it and deserve to see Zack's vision.

#releasethesyndercut
#zacksnyder

https://www.instagram.com/p/CKpstpujjlC/

[thecolorsblend]

Snyder is working the teases lamf and it's stoking some serious interest in ZSJL. He tweeted:
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Amazing character you created. Honored to have our worlds collide.
@DavidAyerMovies @JaredLeto

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1356644230253301760
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Very interesting.

[The Dark Knight]

To me it looks like Letoker is balding and with long hair. His Knightmare persona.

For Snyderverse and Batfleck era purity we need that Ayer cut released.

[thecolorsblend]

This seemed pertinent to today, re: Bezos. And maybe it's because of Eisenberg's casting but people seem to associate this iteration of Lex with the Zuck rather than the (imo more apt) Bezos.

[The Dark Knight]

New image from Zack featuring Knightmare Batman.

[The Laughing Fish]

Snyder is working the teases lamf and it's stoking some serious interest in ZSJL. He tweeted:
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Amazing character you created. Honored to have our worlds collide.
@DavidAyerMovies @JaredLeto

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1356644230253301760
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Very interesting.

The new Joker and Batman picture teases came from the recent additional photography.

In addition to the Joker card appearing in the last trailer, it was also strapped on Knightmare Batman's AK-47 in BvS.



I love this fan's tweet in response to the new Batman image:

This is Ben Affleck in the additional photography for ZSJL. It must've been an intense,emotional experience for him.

Ben took off the cowl because he needed to put his health above all else. The fact that he got better and is in a place to come back must be a huge thing for him.

https://twitter.com/UberKryptonian/status/1357206563224768512

Meanwhile, excerpts from the Release the Snyder Cut book has hit Google Books, and it includes quotes from Snyder himself, as he looked back at the movement's social media activities and how his cut became the most talked about film on social media.

Their websites, their Twitter, their everything ...they were paralyzed. They were literally paralyzed," he said. "They could make no release. They could talk about nothing. I was talking to an unnamed executive who said that [HBO Max] would tweet something about Sesame Street, and people would be like, 'f*** Elmo! Release the Snyder Cut! That was the world they lived in. And they were like, 'Jesus Christ, what are we supposed to do? We can't function!' That's pretty rad.

It was during, I think, [2019's] Comic-Con where there was an article written that said, 'The biggest Warner Bros. and DC presence at Comic-Con this year is for a movie they'd never released.' Which I was like, 'Holy sh*t, that's amazing.

We did all these analytics. And when we went in to talk to Warner Bros. about possibly releasing the movie, I said to them in the boardroom, 'You realize, I don't know if you're aware of it, but the biggest, the most volume for any social media campaign for any movie Warner Bros has ever done is for a movie that you guys never released. The most tweets, the most social media noise in the history of Warner Bros. is for a film that you guys don't have out.'

And at that stage in time, had no intention of releasing. In what world is that okay? In what world does the business model support this point of view? It just seems insane. And you know, apparently that didn't fall on deaf ears.

But it's just a hard thing to argue with...They would say things like, 'Well, it's just a vocal minority. It's just a small amount of people. I'm like, 'Okay, fair enough. If that's what you want to say. But if that's true, and it's not that big of a deal, how come you guys, a giant media corporation, cannot generate the same number of social media impressions as this vocal, grassroots minority that aren't that big of a deal?

How come you wish, in your best-case scenario, you could volumize one of your products in the same way that this handful of people, so you say, can do it? And if it is (just) a handful of people, you should have them working for you because they are unbelievable at their jobs. At their hobby, actually! Because none of them are getting paid for it.

https://www.google.com.au/books/edition/Release_the_Snyder_Cut/RV4MEAAAQBAJ?hl=en&gbpv=1&dq=Their+websites,+their+Twitter,+their+everything+...they+were+paralyzed.&pg=PA8&printsec=frontcover

Typical studio hacks trying to cover their own asses by dismissing the demand as a "vocal minority", rather than owning up to their own f***-ups back in 2017. The arrogance is astounding. If you look at the Twitter activity promoting ZSJL thus far, WB Pictures are the only ones who haven't shown their support. Whereas WarnerMedia, AT&T, TNT Drama, the official accounts of DC Comics, and HBO Max obviously, have been engaging in fan interaction. That mess of a studio needs a clean up and get over their precious little egos.

Snyder was quoted again when asked about the "toxicity" within the fandom.

I just think that's sour grapes. There's really no other way to say it. We know the people who were the architects of that narrative, and it's pretty obvious what their agenda is. Those are people that I've been held back from confronting, by wiser people in the room. Because I'd love to get at some of these characters. Some direct conversation would be nice. Just to say, one, you don't know sh*t about what you're talking about. And we can break down everything they've ever [said]. I can make a list. There's a few of these guys where I could just get a list of everything they've ever said, that they thought was right, and [I could tell them] every single thing they've said is wrong.

And so, in what world do you have any credibility anywhere, to any- one? I would love the opportunity to just say to the world, and to fandom in general, who these fakers are and what should be done to them, or with them. It's just a bunch of BS. In regards to that toxic fandom, or it's 'a win for toxic fandom,' again, in what world does this 'toxic fandom' raise hundreds of thousands of dollars for suicide prevention? How is that toxic fandom? They've probably achieved more than any other fan base, [and done more] good than any other group. So I don't understand.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2562262/zack-snyder-calls-out-the-fakers-who-hated-on-his-justice-league

Of course, I've noticed most of the people who accuse the fandom of "toxicity" are guilty of making rather inflammatory and slanderous remarks about Snyder and the fans on social media. They can project their own personality deficiencies elsewhere. Preferably, where the sun doesn't shine. That includes all of the blogs and articles that accuse the movement of "sexism" and "misogyny". This is simply an indirect way of saying the fandom consists of disgruntled men, which is rubbish. If you research the demographics of this fandom, they're a diverse group of people from around the world. And that includes female fans, such as the women who host Justice Con and Fiona Zheng, the die-hard fan who was probably the first to declare the cut existed, never mind she dedicated her time and money building the RTSC website to archive every news related to the cut and the whole DCEU. So anyone who says the RTSC fandom is a hotbed for misogyny is a lying jackass.

By the way, Sean O'Connell, the author of the RTSC book and writer of that CinemaBlend article, might be a bit of a "faker" himself. It turns out that he had been badmouthing MOS and BvS on Twitter over the years and as recently as late December 2018, when he made an inappropriate GIF of somebody tying their neck up with a noose in response to people praising MOS. Which is pretty tasteless given Snyder's tragic backstory. It wasn't until 2019 he apparently came around to both films. Genuine change of heart, or a cynical cash grab decision?

[thecolorsblend]

Of course, I've noticed most of the people who accuse the fandom of "toxicity" are guilty of making rather inflammatory and slanderous remarks about Snyder and the fans on social media. They can project their own personality deficiencies elsewhere. Preferably, where the sun doesn't shine. That includes all of the blogs and articles that accuse the movement of "sexism" and "misogyny". This is simply an indirect way of saying the fandom consists of disgruntled men, which is rubbish. If you research the demographics of this fandom, they're a diverse group of people from around the world. And that includes female fans, such as the women who host Justice Con and Fiona Zheng, the die-hard fan who was probably the first to declare the cut existed, never mind she dedicated her time and money building the RTSC website to archive every news related to the cut and the whole DCEU. So anyone who says the RTSC fandom is a hotbed for misogyny is a lying jackass.

One of the loudest voices in the #RTSC world is my friend Rebecca Johnson. Between miscellaneous podcasts and her YouTube, she's probably recorded 100 hours worth of pro-Snyder content (whether it's MOS, BVS, JL, whatever). Something tells me she's not misogynistic.

Honestly, the whole "sexist" or "misogynist" bit is rly just dismissive smear language. These days, it's up there with "racist" in terms of totally meaningless words that are intended only for character assassination to distract from whatever the target is saying.

Before 2020, my sense of Snyder was always that he was the perennial Mr. Nice Guy who routinely got kicked around by the loudmouths on Twitter for no reason. Lately (and in that article esp), he's been showing what a scrapper he is and the fact that he's never gone off on those people (aside from that passive-aggressive tactical nuke he dropped on Scott Mendelson) is mostly because it would inevitably result in negative publicity for the movie.

I don't begrudge whoever is keeping Snyder semi-muzzled. They have a brand they have to build and protect. It makes sense. Completely logical. And besides, maybe the biggest F You that Snyder can give those people is completing the movie. After all the naysaying, this is what it's come to. ZSJL is about a month away from release. When you rly think about it, that's the only statement that matters.

Still, I absolutely understand where Snyder is coming from in wanting to give it back to them a little bit. I wish he would but I get why he can't.

[The Dark Knight]

There has always been an us against them mindset with Snyder fans given the critical opposition his films face from aggressive and closed minded loons who just don't get it. This stuff causes fans to rally around Zack, and nearly all of his cast and crew can't speak any higher of him. The cut has amplified all of these pre-existing traits. It's clear as day to me that Zack has become an even bigger legend through this saga, becoming something akin to a leader rather than just a director.

[The Laughing Fish]

One of the loudest voices in the #RTSC world is my friend Rebecca Johnson. Between miscellaneous podcasts and her YouTube, she's probably recorded 100 hours worth of pro-Snyder content (whether it's MOS, BVS, JL, whatever). Something tells me she's not misogynistic.

Yes, I remember sharing Rebecca's YouTube videos over her praise for BvS. She was the first fan I've noticed who praised Lois as the MVP of BvS Ultimate Edition for exposing Lex's smearing of Superman. A welcome change from the usual petty Internet discourse over the character's lack of sass and shallow bullsh*t.

Honestly, the whole "sexist" or "misogynist" bit is rly just dismissive smear language. These days, it's up there with "racist" in terms of totally meaningless words that are intended only for character assassination to distract from whatever the target is saying.

I agree, but it's still infuriating. I realise some people are invested in the idea of painting someone a villain and black sheep in pop culture, but you'd have to be real piece of sh*t to make such slanderous comments. It doesn't help that clickbait has become so prevalent in Internet culture that these people take advantage to promote their agenda, and some platforms give them extra incentives to monetise from it. YouTube and Patreon being the worst offenders.

Still, I absolutely understand where Snyder is coming from in wanting to give it back to them a little bit. I wish he would but I get why he can't.

Agreed 100%. In fact, as soon as Snyder told Mendelson off when the Hallelujah trailer was leaked during DC FanDome, you had these Twitter checkmark twats mocking his comments about ZSJL being a movie for grown-ups. Two problems with their taunting here: 1) It's quite rich because a lot of them praised R-rated movies like Deadpool and Logan, and 2) if superhero movies are for kids then why are they watching them?

Whether Snyder is restraining himself or somebody else is persuading him, you're right, it is the most logical thing to do. The last thing he needs is to give these people any ammunition to twist his words, which is what they have been doing for the last eight years. Completing and releasing the cut definitely hurts their egos, and try as they might, they'll trash it out of spite. To hell with them, I say.

Now that I mentioned R-rated superhero movies, it is confirmed that will be the rating for ZSJL, making it the first DCEU film since BvS Ultimate Edition. The film's official Twitter account summed it up rather nicely:

Rated R for Reborn. #SnyderCut

https://twitter.com/snydercut/status/1357079480116805632?s=20

[thecolorsblend]

A reup of the famous black suit scene from ZSJL. Shorter than other versions floating around at there. But the Zimmer theme can be heard pretty clearly. Anyway, here it is.