Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

Started by The Laughing Fish, Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:52

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https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2561870/the-real-story-behind-why-zack-snyder-left-justice-league-in-2017
The Real Story Behind Why Zack Snyder Left Justice League In 2017

Once you get away from the writer plugging his RTSC/ZSJL book (twice), you get down to Snyder's quote.

"I just was kind of done with it. I was in this place of [knowing] my family needs me more than this bullsh*t, and I just need to honor them and do the best I can to heal that world. I had no energy to fight [the studio], and fight for [the movie]. Literally, zero energy for that. I really think that's the main thing. I think there's a different world where I stayed and kind of tried. And I'm sure I could have . . . because every movie is a fight, right? I was used to that. But I just did not have the [energy]. There was no fight in me. I had been beaten by what was going on in my life and I just didn't want to, I didn't care to . . . that was kind of where I was."

The utter defeat and apathy rly is a new element in this whole discussion. I mean, I can understand that after a tragedy like that, total apathy is sort of implied. But still, this is the first time I'm aware of Snyder directly mentioning it.

Collider editor-in-chief Steven Weintraub posted this highly inappropriate and disgusting reaction to that story on Twitter, before deleting it.





But instead of apologising for his behaviour, he talks down to the fans:

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my least favorite people on Twitter are the Snyder bros who think they know everything about the making of #JusticeLeague.

Let me be clear: I am looking forward to seeing the new 4 hour cut of 'Justice League'. I'm sure it will be a better movie. ½

https://www.twitter.com/colliderfrosty/status/1353791931159994368

What a coward and a liar. His website had been running fake news about the Snyder cut's existence for years, and his colleagues have been making some repulsive insults about Snyder e.g. some douchebag once called him a "self-hating Jew" (even though the man doesn't appear to have any Jewish ancestry).

Meanwhile, the "sNyDeR bRoS" that Weintraub denigrates are people all over the world and many of them have raised money for suicide awareness and other charities. While he and his worthless blogger buddies do nothing but spread misinformation, slander and openly mock tragedies. They can all go to hell. But look at the bright side, now we know more than ever that site has no credibility.

By the way, here is a video of Weintraub making an ass of himself while interviewing Todd McFarlane a few years ago.

QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Mon, 25 Jan 2021, 23:48 #272 Last Edit: Tue, 26 Jan 2021, 00:03 by The Dark Knight
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon, 25 Jan  2021, 20:59
The utter defeat and apathy rly is a new element in this whole discussion. I mean, I can understand that after a tragedy like that, total apathy is sort of implied. But still, this is the first time I'm aware of Snyder directly mentioning it.
I'd like to know when the concept of reshoots was first raised.

Imagine being hired to do a job, being passionate and giving it your all. Then your employer gets cold feet and wants to dramatically alter your vision. They're the boss, so that's going to happen with or without you. You can't fight those powerful forces, so it's all about submission at that point. Imagine the humiliating feeling of having to remain and reshoot large chunks of footage that removes what you were excited about. And the employer still wanting to have a 'Zack Snyder film' slapped on the credits.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Mon, 25 Jan  2021, 23:48
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon, 25 Jan  2021, 20:59
The utter defeat and apathy rly is a new element in this whole discussion. I mean, I can understand that after a tragedy like that, total apathy is sort of implied. But still, this is the first time I'm aware of Snyder directly mentioning it.
I'd like to know when the concept of reshoots was first raised.

Imagine being hired to do a job, being passionate and giving it your all. Then your employer gets cold feet and wants to dramatically alter your vision. They're the boss, so that's going to happen with or without you. You can't fight those powerful forces, so it's all about submission at that point. Imagine the humiliating feeling of having to remain and reshoot large chunks of footage that removes what you were excited about. And the employer still wanting to have a 'Zack Snyder film' slapped on the credits.
It's weird that twenty years ago, Snyder would've had a slam dunk case for taking his name off the movie and crediting it to either Alan Smithee or Joss Whedon. But Alan Smithee has apparently been abolished and Joss Whedon wasn't used because the world is retarded. So something that has almost nothing at all to do with the movie he wanted to make bears his name. To this day, I don't understand why the credits don't say Joss Whedon apart from the lie that WB was still trying to pull off at the time.

Under the circumstances, it's kind of amazing that he ever wanted to come back and finish the film properly.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue, 26 Jan  2021, 00:23
To this day, I don't understand why the credits don't say Joss Whedon apart from the lie that WB was still trying to pull off at the time.

It's a huge failure by the Directors' Guild, and it goes to show they have no credibility if a studio could do this.

As for WB, the negligence and downright sabotaging of their own IP is incomprehensible. If they wanted to change from Snyder's direction then they should've parted ways from the very beginning, before JL could go into further production. Instead, they let their insidious political agendas blow up right in their faces with a PR disaster that still lingers to this day. To describe them getting cold feet is a gross understatement.

Anyway, here is this new Steppenwolf T-shirt.



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QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Tue, 26 Jan 2021, 04:01 #275 Last Edit: Tue, 26 Jan 2021, 04:04 by The Dark Knight
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue, 26 Jan  2021, 00:23
So something that has almost nothing at all to do with the movie he wanted to make bears his name. To this day, I don't understand why the credits don't say Joss Whedon apart from the lie that WB was still trying to pull off at the time.

Under the circumstances, it's kind of amazing that he ever wanted to come back and finish the film properly.
When the studio got cold feet I'm wondering if they originally wanted Snyder directing the reshoots to outright say 'Zack was the man who shot this content', even though he didn't agree with the intent behind it. That would make it easier for them, from their POV, to sell the idea this truly was a Zack Snyder film. But they ended up doing it anyway.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Mon, 25 Jan  2021, 23:48I'd like to know when the concept of reshoots was first raised.
My understanding is that WB mandated reshoots. And yet, work on the SC continued. Why? Because the work being done was for an eventual director's cut. Snyder is famous for director's cuts.

So what Snyder put on the backburner was reshoots for the theatrical version. Snyder continued working on the director's cut because that's what he could work on and, before leaving the production, I imagine that he was supposed to reconvene with WB bigshots and they'd all figure out which parts needed reshoots and so forth for the theatrical version.

It makes sense too because I don't know how else Snyder can honestly say his cut was something like 90% finished while at the same time reshoots were expected. The only thing that makes sense is if we're talking about two different cuts of the movie. The director's cut was nearing completion while the theatrical cut might've been closer to like 50% (just to toss out a number).

Anyway.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Tue, 26 Jan  2021, 04:48
So what Snyder put on the backburner was reshoots for the theatrical version. Snyder continued working on the director's cut because that's what he could work on and, before leaving the production, I imagine that he was supposed to reconvene with WB bigshots and they'd all figure out which parts needed reshoots and so forth for the theatrical version.
Genius on his part. Having so much content shot back in the day, rather than having to film a lot more to complete the product years later, is by far the best case scenario.

Hoard as much popcorn as you can, because it seems like March 25 is going to be the big day according to Grace. Godzilla v Kong has been pushed back a week. She's saying to expect a new trailer and posters fairly soon. I would be perfectly fine if we didn't get a trailer, as we're now so close to the end. But I take it, obviously. I'm strangely more excited to see what the posters are like. I'm hoping for a quality one-sheet style we can use to replace anything that came out with the Theatrical cut, even if I liked some of those designs. It's time to leave all that in the past.

I'm hoping the coming days and weeks reveal more merchandising. I'd like to see something with black suit Superman, as it's truly unique to this film. More shirts would be welcome. As a collector of the movie vehicles I'd like to see good quality Knightcrawler and Flying Fox releases. Time will tell. 

We have a release date.

QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

I'm so stoked. It's coming out soooo soon.

Can't wait.