Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

Started by The Laughing Fish, Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:52

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Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 20 Sep  2020, 16:48
I maintain that a four or five episode coda for L&C would be a big draw for HBO Max. That show still has a loyal fanbase consisting of people who aren't specifically Superman fans or comic book readers. It was a chick flick TV show with a fairly strong following among adult women. They might not be a highly sought-after demographic but they still represent a demographic that Superman usually doesn't reach. They're an audience who should be courted (to a degree) since HBO Max needs all the subscribers it can get. The FOLCs would subscribe to HBO Max for a Lois & Clark revival.

I'd be surprised if Dean Cain will ever star in another mainstream production in the near future. I've read some comments on Reddit speculating that Hollywood has blacklisted him because of his political views. That might explain why he wasn't involved in CW's Crisis on Infinite Earths.

Over the weekend, a new picture of Batfleck from ZSJL was released.



https://twitter.com/snydercut/status/1307381063237472256

Now THAT is Batman.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Tue, 22 Sep  2020, 09:54I'd be surprised if Dean Cain will ever star in another mainstream production in the near future. I've read some comments on Reddit speculating that Hollywood has blacklisted him because of his political views. That might explain why he wasn't involved in CW's Crisis on Infinite Earths.
That could be true.

But with AT&T running things now... well, I don't think they care about Hollywood politics and stupid junior high lunchroom cooties stuff. I think they only want to make money. If they perceive a chance to turn some bux from hiring Cain for something, I think they would do it and F the entertainment world's asinine political ramifications over it.

I found this very good video analysing - and ridiculing - the misinformation surrounding bloggers' reactions towards the news of the cast getting to shoot additional photography some time this month.

QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Thu,  1 Oct  2020, 00:31
I found this very good video analysing - and ridiculing - the misinformation surrounding bloggers' reactions towards the news of the cast getting to shoot additional photography some time this month.


The video raises a good point. The cost of completing the film was originally estimated to be something like $10-$30 million. The assumption a lot of us made is that HBO Max was seeking (relatively) cheap content that they could complete and slap out there for a fast buck.

Based on that, my analysis was that this was nothing more than a business proposition for HBO Max and nobody should expect too much from the Snyderverse... unless ZSJL did REALLY well.

But the $70+ million price tag does go a long way toward supporting the people who claimed that HBO was all in on Snyder's vision. The idea of not just finishing the compromised version of the film but restoring the original vision Snyder had is a ballsy step and I agree that it doesn't make sense to do that unless more is at least hoped for by all parties involved. Good on him for addressing that so thoroughly.

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Thu,  1 Oct  2020, 00:31
I found this very good video analysing - and ridiculing - the misinformation surrounding bloggers' reactions towards the news of the cast getting to shoot additional photography some time this month.


They're assuming that we'll get the original vision for Justice League along with Justice League 2&3. I'm going to wait on official word on that before I believe it.

Does anybody know what the original crazy idea was that Snyder and Terrio has to cut out?

My questions:

Is this extra content needed to bring it up to four hours?
If so, what is the current runtime without the new content?

Cavill isn't involved in the new content, which leads to me believe it's taking place earlier in the film before Big Blue is resurrected.

I've seen speculation that perhaps it's stuff like Batman finding a Parademon nest, eg, stuff that was in concept but not filmed or properly realized. If HBO Max is all in with the Snyderverse, and I absolutely hope they are, fingers crossed Snyder's Easter egg teases to other films are included.

There was talk of Bruce being visited by a Green Lantern at the glasshouse. That could be the stuff they're doing.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu,  1 Oct  2020, 11:33
My questions:

Is this extra content needed to bring it up to four hours?
If so, what is the current runtime without the new content?

Cavill isn't involved in the new content, which leads to me believe it's taking place earlier in the film before Big Blue is resurrected.

I've seen speculation that perhaps it's stuff like Batman finding a Parademon nest, eg, stuff that was in concept but not filmed or properly realized. If HBO Max is all in with the Snyderverse, and I absolutely hope they are, fingers crossed Snyder's Easter egg teases to other films are included.

There was talk of Bruce being visited by a Green Lantern at the glasshouse. That could be the stuff they're doing.
As far as I know it's currently 214 minutes.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Thu,  1 Oct  2020, 11:33
My questions:

Is this extra content needed to bring it up to four hours?
If so, what is the current runtime without the new content?

Cavill isn't involved in the new content, which leads to me believe it's taking place earlier in the film before Big Blue is resurrected.

I've seen speculation that perhaps it's stuff like Batman finding a Parademon nest, eg, stuff that was in concept but not filmed or properly realized. If HBO Max is all in with the Snyderverse, and I absolutely hope they are, fingers crossed Snyder's Easter egg teases to other films are included.

There was talk of Bruce being visited by a Green Lantern at the glasshouse. That could be the stuff they're doing.
I've wondered if some of the additional filming might be extending existing scenes. Screenwriting for features requires a lot of discipline and efficiency. There's often not enough time to really indulge a given idea before moving on to the next scene. I'm curious if some scenes might get extended to pad out an episodic release format.

If the assembly cut was five hours, I think it's reasonable to suggest there's at least 3.5 hours of releasable material in there. Perhaps the additional filming is intended to allow five or six "episodes"?

Some movies have scenes that scream to be extended (but they can't be). In Jaws, there's a bit where Hooper and Brodie go cruising on a boat in search of the shark (or anything, really). Every single time I watch that scene, I always want it to be extended 15 or 20 minutes. The dialogue, the lights, the music, the atmosphere, it's just an amazing moment in the film for me. I want to more fully indulge that particular moment. My hope is that Snyder might extend really cool scenes in that same type of way. Something that was already good on its own merits but brief, like the Hooper/Brodie thing in Jaws.

No idea if I'm making sense here since I got practically no sleep last night.

I'm never going to say no to more content filmed by the great man, Zack Snyder. But in some respects I'd prefer Justice League to be wholly the film that exists in the can from 2017. It seems extra filmed content is this movie's destiny, be it with the disgrace that is WhedonLeague, or now ZSJL. All I ask is that the content filmed in 2020 feels natural and blends in with the existing footage from three or so years ago. The actors have aged slightly but I'm sure it will be fine.

Intriguing comments from Henry Cavill:

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I'm just really excited to see his vision realized. He got to be the train. I think it's only fair that that train gets to reach its station which he was aiming for, and I think it's important that that vision is realized. Whether you agree with it or not, it doesn't matter. It's a storyteller's, it's a filmmaker's right to have that vision realized. I'm excited to see it. I'm excited to see what that vision was and how it looks.

[Zack's] got the advantage of hindsight now. It's going to be even better. I just want to see a good movie or a series of movies.

https://theculturednerd.org/2020/10/henry-cavill-on-the-snyder-cut-and-the-realization-of-a-storytellers-vision/

Should anyone read into his comment about "a series of movies"?
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei