Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

[eledoremassis02]

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[Vampfox]

As a Joss fan I stand with Joss. Plus Fisher isn't really saying much about what kind of abuse he suffered.

[The Dark Knight]

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Thanks for posting this. Sounds great and obviously fits in perfectly to Snyder's world. Really hoping it gets an iTunes release because the fans are definitely going to buy anything related to this project. Elfman's JL score being good or bad is beside the point - IT SHOULDN'T BE THERE.

[thecolorsblend]

I've been thinking the same. I'm siding with Ray because I dislike Whedon that much - and as I said on July 1, EVEN IF THE ALLEGATIONS WERE BOGUS. Joss deserves this treatment, and it's awkward for him and the woke studio to battle a black man. We must believe ALL victims no matter what, right?

Quite so. And as you probably remember, there are plenty of other stories about Whedon making the rounds. Some of them are credible enough that an online Whedon fan community shut its doors forever because the guy is obviously such a hypocrite.

Taking that hat off for a moment: there could be more, but looking at the current allegations in legal terms...so far there doesn't seem to be much there. Johns calling Ray to gloat someone else had been cast as Cyborg is a dick move, but is it anything more than that? What's the crime? And unless he recorded the conversation it's hearsay.

Hopefully more details emerge that properly explain how the relationship between actor and studio soured. Otherwise it's just going to get awkward, with Ray always talking about vetting investigators and withholding key information 'for a later date'. Is he a Jussie Smollett or a Bubba Wallace? I don't know. I'd hope not. But hopefully Whedon is sweating in any case. Let's see where this goes.

This whole time, I keep thinking of Hannibal Burris. Time was, Burris was literally the only guy in the room shouting Bill Cosby's sins from the rooftops. But eventually, his accusations caught a little bit of traction and Cosby eventually got what was coming to him.

I'm not saying Fisher is sitting on a time bomb that powerful. But if he's sitting on anything at all, the best thing he can do is say his piece, either privately or publicly and let The System handle things from there.

But vague accusations like this are little b!tch moves that only losers do. Speaking of which...

At this point, I'm inclined to trust the actor who is likely putting his own career on the line than the corporation that has established themselves as deceitful and untrustworthy.

What risk? Fisher hasn't exactly been busy since Josstice League flopped. He has nothing to lose by going down with the ship. If he makes WB bleed, he might be able to scare up work for himself elsewhere.

I'm not saying that's definitely his move. But I am saying that I see no real risk in what he's doing right now.

Momoa? Yeah, he's taking a risk. Because he does have something to lose. Which is literally the only reason I'm still willing to give Fisher come consideration. But Fisher really needs to get specific either on Twitter or with the investigators he's apparently ducking if he wants to be taken seriously.

[The Laughing Fish]

Momoa? Yeah, he's taking a risk. Because he does have something to lose. Which is literally the only reason I'm still willing to give Fisher come consideration. But Fisher really needs to get specific either on Twitter or with the investigators he's apparently ducking if he wants to be taken seriously.

Then this should ease your doubts over Fisher, because Momoa has SLAMMED WB right now on Instagram.

[thecolorsblend]

Momoa? Yeah, he's taking a risk. Because he does have something to lose. Which is literally the only reason I'm still willing to give Fisher come consideration. But Fisher really needs to get specific either on Twitter or with the investigators he's apparently ducking if he wants to be taken seriously.

Then this should ease your doubts over Fisher, because Momoa has SLAMMED WB right now on Instagram.

What "sh*tty stuff" happened? To whom? By whom? All due respect to Momoa but he's being no more specific than Fisher. I'm not saying either of them are wrong or lying or anything. But it's time to make specific accusations against specific people about specific wrongdoing already. WB is doing damage control, for sure. And the thing is, they have a leg to stand on for some people because they're defending against vague accusations. If Fisher and Momoa want real "accountability", they need to say in no uncertain terms what happened, who did it and who allowed it to go on.

[The Laughing Fish]

WB is doing damage control, for sure. And the thing is, they have a leg to stand on for some people because they're defending against vague accusations.

I don't see how WB have a leg to stand on at all. No matter how vague the accusations are, the fact of the matter is that Momoa has called bullsh*t on that Frosty press release and said it was a tactic to divert attention away from Fisher's complaints. That alone is an extremely bad look. Where the hell is the accountability in that?

From what I understand, WB Pictures are operating their own investigation to cover up for themselves, but they're are saying to the media that the matter is dealt with by the parent company WarnerMedia. It's very shady stuff. Whether or not legality is preventing the cast from coming forward to provide specific details in public, there is definitely a sense of frustration over the matter not being investigated properly.

The sooner WB gets cleaned up, the better. It's a mess.

[The Dark Knight]

What "sh*tty stuff" happened? To whom? By whom? All due respect to Momoa but he's being no more specific than Fisher. I'm not saying either of them are wrong or lying or anything. But it's time to make specific accusations against specific people about specific wrongdoing already. WB is doing damage control, for sure. And the thing is, they have a leg to stand on for some people because they're defending against vague accusations. If Fisher and Momoa want real "accountability", they need to say in no uncertain terms what happened, who did it and who allowed it to go on.

It's all very thin so far. The distraction talk is mindreading, meaning he can't prove that and it wouldn't hold up in court. Did it stop him stop tweeting? No it didn't. IMO the deciding factor for all this is their definition of 'serious stuff'.

Ray and Momoa would greatly help their cause if they gave specific details. Otherwise I'm just seeing a prolonged slow burn campaign. I dislike Whedon as much as anybody but I actually don't think I'd be worried about that too much if I were him. People lose interest after a while and see nothing is coming from it.

Lead with the real dirt now. I'm hoping they provide that in due course.

[Silver Nemesis]

What "sh*tty stuff" happened? To whom? By whom? All due respect to Momoa but he's being no more specific than Fisher. I'm not saying either of them are wrong or lying or anything. But it's time to make specific accusations against specific people about specific wrongdoing already.

The situation is starting to remind me of Franz Kafka's novel The Trial, in which the main protagonist is informed he's being tried by a mysterious court that's independent of the state judiciary, but they won't tell him what specific crime he's being charged with. Consequently he's forced to mount a legal defence without even knowing what it is he's meant to have done wrong. I'm not saying Fisher's a liar or that the folks at WB are innocent (I'll wait for the full facts before rendering judgement), only that the trial-by-Twitter approach is very Kafkaesque.

[The Laughing Fish]

Fisher claims Affleck's return for The Flash was meant to be announced at DC FanDome, but it was pushed forward a few days earlier as a PR tactic.

https://www.twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1305924305029672960

That would make sense. I never understood why the Affleck news wasn't saved for the event. Still, that's not quite as bad as lying about Momoa starring in a production without his permission.

Hopefully the investigation gets under control so the actors can be free from any legality and say what exactly happened. I hope it means getting some corrupt people fired from WB too.

In the meantime, I've found this neat little video of Junkie XL's score with footage from ZS5L trailer. Although it seems the official title may be Justice League: Director's Cut.