Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

[The Laughing Fish]

If you look at Affleck's book shelf in the background and turn the quality up to 720 pixels or above, you can see he has two copies of The Killing Joke.

Whedon sounds like a terrible person to work with

I don't know about that since until now no one who has worked with Joss has come out against him. I feel like if Joss was a terrible person then we would have heard about it long before now.

I don't think it's that simple. Harvey Weinstein was a prominent Hollywood producer for decades, and it wasn't until the last several years he was exposed to being this deviant that everyone in the world now knows him to be.

As for what happened with Justice League I blame Warner Bros more then Joss. WB has a history of overreacting to negative movie reviews. Remember they overreacted to the backlash to Batman Returns which got us Batman Forever which lead to Batman and Robin.
It's clear here that they overreacted to the negative reviews that some movie critics give Batman vs Superman.

As much as I don't have any love for Whedon and his reshoots were shoddy as hell, you're right that Warner are still responsible for this whole ordeal. That doesn't excuse Whedon by any means, but they created this mess to begin with and I'll go far to say they enabled these allegations of abuse on the set. I'd say their decision making concerning was much worse than anything they did in the Burton-Schumacher era.

While I have no doubt that Whedon did something or other and that Johns had every possible motive to cover it all up, I'd like some specifics instead of the vague accusations Fisher has been slinging.

There is this curious video by YouTuber Chris Wong-Swenson about a week and a half ago talking about what Fisher's earlier comment could mean. Whether this analysis is legit or not is another sotry.

Regarding the ZSJL trailer, we can go through the many differences we see from that alone compared to Josstice League. What I liked the most is Snyder is polishing the effects, such as the Wonder Woman "Shall we?" scene we saw back in the first trailer in 2017.

[The Joker]

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Slight variations between Snyder 2017 Cyborg and Snyder 2020 Cyborg. Left leg, left ribcage, chest, all have some pretty notable differences. Very interesting.

[The Laughing Fish]

Ha ha.

Meanwhile....

[The Laughing Fish]

Leonardo Cohen's Hallelujah is a curious choice of song for the trailer. One might interprete it as a celebration of the film's anticipated release. As a fun bit of trivia, the same song was used during that sex scene between Nite Owl and Silk Spectre in Snyder's Watchmen. 

The official Snyder Cut Twitter account was set up a couple of days ago. The current profile picture has the JL logo, but curiously, without the initials.



https://twitter.com/snydercut

Meanwhile, I found this snippet from an interview with Christina Wren, who played Major Farris in MOS and BvS. She talked about how she felt seeing Josstice League back in 2017, and expressed her delight once finding out the real cut is coming.

"Sometimes I feel like Hollywood has all these algorithms, and you don't make art by algorithms".

f***ing A.

[The Dark Knight]

If anyone had concerns about how color correction would look, they should automatically be washed away. The black suit is a thing of beauty, and it's what he should be wearing in this particular storyline.

Keeping the suit on for a long time makes sense to me. It makes it more than just a choice, but about science. The black drinks in the rays, and the longer he wears it, the stronger he becomes. The golden sunlight as the League overlook the landscape is a big argument for that.

The footage of Clark hugging Lois and Martha in the cornfield is what Superman is all about. A good man who cares deeply for people, and they care deeply for him. This footage is coming from a director who apparently hates Superman. A director who started his film series with Superman, and made him the heart and soul of every subsequent film. It's a testament to Snyder that my Superman interest is nearly solely based around his version.

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If anyone had concerns about how color correction would look, they should automatically be washed away. The black suit is a thing of beauty, and it's what he should be wearing in this particular storyline.

Keeping the suit on for a long time makes sense to me. It makes it more than just a choice, but about science. The black drinks in the rays, and the longer he wears it, the stronger he becomes. The golden sunlight as the League overlook the landscape is a big argument for that.

The footage of Clark hugging Lois and Martha in the cornfield is what Superman is all about. A good man who cares deeply for people, and they care deeply for him. This footage is coming from a director who apparently hates Superman. A director who started his film series with Superman, and made him the heart and soul of every subsequent film. It's a testament to Snyder that my Superman interest is nearly solely based around his version.

I grew up on Post-Crisis Superman and Reign Of The Supermen is arguably the centerpiece of that version of the character's canon. And as you probably know, his black outfit is probably one of the most famous elements of the actual Superman's return. I don't understand why the black outfit is so controversial to some people when it's such a memorable part of the storyline.

People made the exact same argument about the black suit back then too in terms of it absorbing more sunlight than anything else would. He came back from the dead virtually powerless so that was an important thing for him to correct.

[The Dark Knight]

I grew up on Post-Crisis Superman and Reign Of The Supermen is arguably the centerpiece of that version of the character's canon. And as you probably know, his black outfit is probably one of the most famous elements of the actual Superman's return. I don't understand why the black outfit is so controversial to some people when it's such a memorable part of the storyline.

I believe it's this simple to the bed wetters: Superman is meant to hopeful, and black makes him look like an evil Batman knockoff. The Batman knockoff complaint can have merit at times, but it has also become an impediment to Superman's growth as a three dimensional character.

Any character is strengthened by experiencing conflict. Batman and Superman are separate characters, but it's dumb to say there's certain emotions or themes that are only exclusive to one and not the other. 

Superman can and should get angry at times. He shouldn't be smiling 24/7, which is completely unnatural. He should physically fight opponents, which means yelling and inadvertently causing property damage. He should have doubts to deal with and overcome. Snyder's take is just about spot on for me in all those categories.

It's easy to be hopeful in a hopeful world. It's harder to be hopeful in this modern world. That's the whole premise of Snyder's Superman, and it seems to go over people's heads.

Because he has superpowers, Superman doesn't have any need for gadgets, and that's part of his appeal. However the black suit, or any other alternative suit, expands his world and IMO makes things more interesting. What comic fan doesn't like seeing a range of different costumes?

[The Laughing Fish]

I grew up on Post-Crisis Superman and Reign Of The Supermen is arguably the centerpiece of that version of the character's canon. And as you probably know, his black outfit is probably one of the most famous elements of the actual Superman's return. I don't understand why the black outfit is so controversial to some people when it's such a memorable part of the storyline.

People made the exact same argument about the black suit back then too in terms of it absorbing more sunlight than anything else would. He came back from the dead virtually powerless so that was an important thing for him to correct.

I get the impression a lot of these supposed Superman purists are not fans of the Post-Crisis era, which Snyder's take has a lot of common. I've seen some of these people talk about Superman should appeal to a mass family friendly demographic, and perhaps, the black suit is representative of a comic book saga that is anything but.

[thecolorsblend]

I grew up on Post-Crisis Superman and Reign Of The Supermen is arguably the centerpiece of that version of the character's canon. And as you probably know, his black outfit is probably one of the most famous elements of the actual Superman's return. I don't understand why the black outfit is so controversial to some people when it's such a memorable part of the storyline.

People made the exact same argument about the black suit back then too in terms of it absorbing more sunlight than anything else would. He came back from the dead virtually powerless so that was an important thing for him to correct.

I get the impression a lot of these supposed Superman purists are not fans of the Post-Crisis era, which Snyder's take has a lot of common. I've seen some of these people talk about Superman should appeal to a mass family friendly demographic, and perhaps, the black suit is representative of a comic book saga that is anything but.

I get the impression that these days, all it takes to be a "huge Superman fan" is having seen STM twice.

And to say the least, the Post-Crisis canon exists in a world apart from STM.

I'm to the point now where I almost want to quiz people who say they're big Superman fans. Yeah? Okay, big shot.

What are your top five favorite Superman comic book stories? For arbitrary criteria, stories including Batman appearances don't count.

Who are your top 10 favorite Superman artists? Do you enjoy the Bronze Age more than Post-Crisis?

Whether yes or no, show your gd work and explain your answer.

Is Superboy a necessary component of the character's history? If no, explain.

As a matter of absolute canon, Lex Luthor has to be a corporate titan: True or False?

Superman's one true love is Lois Lane. Agree or disagree? Why?

If someone can't speak to me at length about those things without referencing the movies/shows, Batman or some other off-topic bull$#!+, I don't respect their cred as a "Superman fan".

For you Batman fans, think of it as someone claiming to be a gigantic Batman fan but literally all they know is the Nolan trilogy. There's nothing wrong with the Nolan trilogy but there's also a helluva lot more to Batman than just those three films, right? That's basically where I am with Superman and a lot of the hipsters who call themselves fans.