Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

Started by The Laughing Fish, Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:52

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Everything We Know About ZSJL. It's basically a round up of known info. Another way of looking at it is you can sum the whole thing up with "Not much". Either way, it's good to have it all in one place, I guess.

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/snyder-cut-justice-league-hbo-max-zack-snyder-everything-we-know-1234704010


It's going to be a long movie, which is music to my ears. If this is it for the Snyderverse, I can't imagine a better sendoff considering the circumstances. The movie we'll see will be an even purer version of what Snyder was going to release before the circus started.

Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Mon, 20 Jul  2020, 15:05


I may have misunderstood, but I get the sense that Snyder's "trilogy" (MOS, BvS Ultimate Edition and ZSJL) takes place in an alternate timeline, and the theatrical releases (MOS, BvS theatrical cut and Josstice League) belong in the main DCEU timeline. Not ideal, but under the circumstances, beggars can't be choosers.

Decent interview, but I'm not the biggest Grace Randolph fan, even if she is Snyder-friendly. I prefer to think her evil Superman comment wasn't meant to be taken literally.

If ZSJL is going to be longer than the 214-minute cut that Snyder himself had been hinting at within the last few years, I have to wonder if that cut was compromised by Johns rewrites. And maybe he'll be doing some additional work i.e. ADR to fix all that?
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei


Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 25 Jul  2020, 02:32
Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Mon, 20 Jul  2020, 15:05


I may have misunderstood, but I get the sense that Snyder's "trilogy" (MOS, BvS Ultimate Edition and ZSJL) takes place in an alternate timeline, and the theatrical releases (MOS, BvS theatrical cut and Josstice League) belong in the main DCEU timeline. Not ideal, but under the circumstances, beggars can't be choosers.

Decent interview, but I'm not the biggest Grace Randolph fan, even if she is Snyder-friendly. I prefer to think her evil Superman comment wasn't meant to be taken literally.

If ZSJL is going to be longer than the 214-minute cut that Snyder himself had been hinting at within the last few years, I have to wonder if that cut was compromised by Johns rewrites. And maybe he'll be doing some additional work i.e. ADR to fix all that?
This just popped up  https://www.superherohype.com/movies/484177-zack-snyder-vows-his-justice-league-cut-wont-use-any-of-joss-whedons-footage

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 25 Jul  2020, 02:32
I may have misunderstood, but I get the sense that Snyder's "trilogy" (MOS, BvS Ultimate Edition and ZSJL) takes place in an alternate timeline, and the theatrical releases (MOS, BvS theatrical cut and Josstice League) belong in the main DCEU timeline. Not ideal, but under the circumstances, beggars can't be choosers.

To be clear, I may have misspoke by saying "timeline". I should've said "universe", if we're lead to believe that DC on film will embracing the multiverse concept going forward.

Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Sun, 26 Jul  2020, 00:55
This just popped up  https://www.superherohype.com/movies/484177-zack-snyder-vows-his-justice-league-cut-wont-use-any-of-joss-whedons-footage

Without giving SHH any clicks because I hate the site, Snyder went on record saying "I'll destroy the movie before I use a single frame that I didn't photograph. That is a f***ing hard fact. I'd literally blow the f***ing thing up". And he has every right to.

What's even more exciting is he confirmed that he'll be going back to the original Steppenwolf design from BvS!
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Mon, 20 Jul  2020, 15:05

I'm coming back to this. Snyder has said a few times now that he hasn't seen the Whedon cut. I can believe that up to a certain point. But I find it a bit hard to swallow right now. Out of morbid curiosity perhaps crossed with a righteous vindication, I'd be shocked if he hasn't watched the other version.

Richard Donner claims to have never seen the Lester cut of Superman II. But he sure seems to know an awful lot about it, creative decisions that were made which were different from his own, etc.

I have to wonder in cases like this if directors claim to have never seen the alternate version of their films to avoid answering questions and perhaps saying something they'll regret later.

In Donner's case, I don't buy it, full stop. But even with Snyder, I see quite a few reasons to not accept what he says at face value when it comes to having never watched Whedon's hacked up mess.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun, 26 Jul  2020, 22:26
Quote from: eledoremassis02 on Mon, 20 Jul  2020, 15:05

I'm coming back to this. Snyder has said a few times now that he hasn't seen the Whedon cut. I can believe that up to a certain point. But I find it a bit hard to swallow right now. Out of morbid curiosity perhaps crossed with a righteous vindication, I'd be shocked if he hasn't watched the other version.

Richard Donner claims to have never seen the Lester cut of Superman II. But he sure seems to know an awful lot about it, creative decisions that were made which were different from his own, etc.

I have to wonder in cases like this if directors claim to have never seen the alternate version of their films to avoid answering questions and perhaps saying something they'll regret later.

In Donner's case, I don't buy it, full stop. But even with Snyder, I see quite a few reasons to not accept what he says at face value when it comes to having never watched Whedon's hacked up mess.
I do believe it. These people possibly have friends that still work on these productions well after the director has left. Also, in the case of Snyder there are tweets of fans filling him in on what some of the differences were.

I remember Bryan Singer talking about X-Men 3. He said that a friend of his had prepared him for which characters were going to be killed off before he even saw the film.

My thoughts on recent developments:

1. The black suit looks good, especially when the grading and SFX are all tidied up and complete. I like the tone of the cape especially, as it goes well with the shield. Goes to show how jittery the studio were that the black suit, a staple of Superman's resurrection in the comics, was considered too much of a risk following BvS.

2. If I were a gambling man I'd wager Whedon won't do a damn thing against Ray, and Ray knows it. Even if the claims were bogus. Of course Snyder wouldn't use a single frame from Whedon's reshoots, but I sense an added malice in his comment that would please Ray. Snyder's comment about the studio releasing the Superman/Alfred footage without his permission also was a shot across their bow.     

3. I get a strong feeling the movie will be presented in serialized format. Maybe an episode a week or something like that, to keep subscribers hooked for longer. I'd just hope the cliffhanger nature of an episode's conclusion will be presented as always intended, rather than music swelling to a crescendo type thing for each chapter's conclusion.