Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

[The Laughing Fish]

Harry Lennix wrote this on Twitter:

Re: Justice League and the Snyder cut... Things don't Just happen--things happen Just.

https://mobile.twitter.com/HarryJLennix/status/1263905707037876224

I was initially skeptical about the possibility of restoring Lennix in ZSJL, but now I'm suddenly feeling comfortable. If Snyder has the budget and freedom to do it, then he should go for it.

[thecolorsblend]

I gave the video and look, and he makes good points. All the reasons why WB would never release the film all still exist, and there were absolutely rational reasons for people to think that way. Going back in time opens up a can of worms for them in a number of areas.

IF the studio got in touch with Snyder I'm convinced it was under the strong direction of AT&T. I still can't imagine WB initiating this. If AT&T are waiting to see how the film is received on HBO Max, and it's a roaring success, things will really start to get interesting.  For example, if Cavil gets another solo film, do they keep him in the black suit?  Snyder said Superman wore the black suit throughout JL, and this includes the shirt rip at the end. The suit would've remained for the next couple of films before the red and blue returned.

It was clever from Snyder's POV to share this information, as people know when something is a deviation and when it's not. Which would put AT&T in an interesting situation if they did embrace expanding this particular universe and staying in the good books with fans.

If ZSJL takes off, I think it's reasonable to assume that at least one person (probably from AT&T) will suggest resurrecting "the Snyderverse" or whatever we're calling it. And if that happens, I believe that a power struggle will ensue. Anybody who knows anything about Hollywood is aware of the Judas Factor. Snyder has been bitten by that repeatedly while making his films, obviously. If somebody has a good thing going, it shouldn't come as a surprise to find out that somebody else stabs them in the back.

We're seeing an interesting cultural clash right now. AT&T is a corporation. They're from the world of high level business. That's the world that they understand. Whereas Hollywood is something akin to a religious cult where merit and talent take a backseat to other things. Ego, for example. Hollywood is not motivated by money. Never has been. But right now, AT&T The High Level Conglomerate looks like they're flexing on Warner Bros. The Religious Cult Member. Nobody's qualified to speculate on what happens next.

But whatever it is, it could transform Hollywood.

[The Dark Knight]

I think WB would be feeling uncomfortable, but they have no choice but to go along with it. From what I see, all the enthusiastic tweeting is coming from AT&T. WB have acknowledged it, of course, but nothing much more than that.

WB is seemingly holding on to the 'we wanted a two hour film and thus content needed to be cut and altered to accomodate that request' excuse. Saying three or more hours is too long for theatrical release was the perfect excuse to cut out large chunks of it. The studio got cold feet, plain and simple, and wanted to close as many hanging plot threads as possible, and soften as many perceived red flags as possible. The intention was to move away from Snyder's vision. It's the elephant in the room and WB knows that we know. You don't fork out millions in reshoots to change context if it's a simple runtime issue.

I have no doubt whatsoever that Snyder's JL was of the same high quality as BvS, but its biggest crime is being mature thematically, musically and visually. Among other things, the Russia finale sky was changed from blue to red, and the Superman resurrection changed from night to day. Another huge piece of evidence of WB's intent is signing up Elfman and scrapping the brilliant Junkie XL. It all lines up with an intent to make something more 'mainstream' and less intense.

The release film never felt like the true continuation of MoS or BvS because it wasn't.

I recall during the early days of filming it was being stressed how the tone was more hopeful. As the release date neared, with a large amount of content in the can, I have little doubt WB thought the tone still wasn't light enough. Superman wore the red and blue during filming, but it's apparent Snyder held out hope it would be changed to black in post production, which is apparently easy to do. He can do that now, thankfully. Superman was apparently meant to be tempted in the finale, and the League were all killed, before the Flash intervened. From three dimensional characterizations, credible threat levels and obstacle to overcome, to simplistic and safe. The fact the Parademons were changed to smell fear seems like projection on WB's part.

I'm sure the Reeves film will continue. I think it's somewhat possible Cavill gets a contract extension. Affleck has said he's not coming back, and I believe he means it right now. Michael Jordan truly meant to stay retired from basketball after taking up baseball, too. It depends on how hard HBO wants to flex. If they want Affleck back, and make a powerful approach to him, who really knows how he reacts to that. Like Jordan, I assume Affleck has a degree of pride that can be tapped in to. The theme of proving a point or finishing something. If he ever came back, I imagine it would be HBO Max exclusives rather than the big screen.

But right now, it's all about how ZSJL goes on HBO Max. If it does, a lot of options are in play. And I don't see what WB could really do about it if they disagreed. IMO they'd have to do what I think they're doing now.

[The Laughing Fish]

Zack Snyder says thanks to the fans for their support in making his vision of JL possible.

https://www.twitter.com/ComicBookDebate/status/1265692418235645959

Vero - the social network where Snyder has been famous for interacting with fans and sharing images from his cut of the movie - has paid tribute to the fandom.

[thecolorsblend]

Cavill may be coming back. What the hell is going on out there?!

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/henry-cavill-superman-movie-dc-comics-batman-justice-league-cameo-1234618227

[The Dark Knight]

Cavill may be coming back. What the hell is going on out there?!

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/henry-cavill-superman-movie-dc-comics-batman-justice-league-cameo-1234618227

Something beautiful.

I posted this only last month:

I don't find enjoyment in saying this but I think the future of the character is DOA unless something drastic happens.

Something drastic needed to happen and it has happened, much sooner than I ever thought possible. If true, add this news in with the Snyder cut and Superman is going to be saved. He finally has a future again, rather than being frozen and unsure of what to do. The fans love Cavill and after all the pain and uncertainty they'll rally in support like never before. With three films in the can already, Cavill can really build an era here and leave the ghost of Reeve behind.

[The Laughing Fish]

Zack Snyder says thanks to the fans for their support in making his vision of JL possible.

https://www.twitter.com/ComicBookDebate/status/1265692418235645959

Somebody else brought to my attention that the Martian Manhunter logo is seen in the background. I guess this means J'onn J'onzz is confirmed.



As for Cavill possibly returning to play Superman on a more permanent basis...I'll wait and see. I've heard rumours those fools at WB want to make him appear in cameos for other films, without any plans for a Superman movie. That would be very stupid if true. But we'll see how we go in ZSJL.

I have only one request though...if Cavill were to play Superman again post-ZSJL, please don't turn him into another Reeve clone.

[thecolorsblend]

Zack Snyder says thanks to the fans for their support in making his vision of JL possible.

https://www.twitter.com/ComicBookDebate/status/1265692418235645959

Somebody else brought to my attention that the Martian Manhunter logo is seen in the background. I guess this means J'onn J'onzz is confirmed.



As for Cavill possibly returning to play Superman on a more permanent basis...I'll wait and see. I've heard rumours those fools at WB want to make him appear in cameos for other films, without any plans for a Superman movie. That would be very stupid if true. But we'll see how we go in ZSJL.

I have only one request though...if Cavill were to play Superman again post-ZSJL, please don't turn him into another Reeve clone.

A gradual reintroduction might not be a bad thing. I'll keep an open mind about cameos.

Still, Cavill ain't getting any younger. If they want him to come back, they need to make it happen soon. And for right now, ZSJL will probably determine Cavill's fate. We're in a strange hurry up and wait mode right now.

[The Dark Knight]

The 'cameo only' speculation does put a dampener on things. Ideally they'd splice Cavill somewhere into their current slate while preparing a solo film. I think I'd go for an appearance in Shazam 2, as there's already a hook for that to happen with the headless cameo. I like the emotional complexity of Snyder's Superman, however it wouldn't hurt to see him in a different context - mentoring a young kid about what it means to be a hero. The balance for me would be making sure his Superman didn't become generic. Placing him in peril or losing trust in one another at some point would help. If Superman's screen-time was somewhat substantial it would be enough to get me excited, and treat it as legitimate in his canon - as it stands I barely count Batfleck's appearance in Suicide Squad.

[The Joker]

Can't say I'm a fan of simply peppering in Cavill's Superman with the upcoming slate of DC films. He's SUPERMAN. Not Nick Fury. The character, as well as Henry himself, deserve better than mere glorified cameos. If it's a extended guest star role, where it comes across as almost like a team up (especially if he's throwing down), then one runs the very real risk of whoever's movie being, not surprisingly, overshadowed by Superman. Imagine that.