Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

[The Joker]

lol, I'm more excited about this than the new Batman movie.

This announcement was a long time coming. It's nothing short of outstanding to see that Snyder's Justice League prevailed.

[thecolorsblend]

"You Can't Save The World Alone"

Boy, the fans have really embodied that philosophy.

[The Laughing Fish]

And I just saw this. lol

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qYvD3fXslnI&feature=emb_title

Haha, colors already beat you to that video earlier in the thread. But yes, Film Gob is great at compiling videos of know-it-all bloggers making fools of themselves.

Here is another couple of good videos he made in the last few days.

A press release was published on WarnerMedia's site yesterday, shortly after the news broke.

After global passionate fan calls to action and the #ReleaseTheSnyderCut movement, HBO Max and Warner Bros. Pictures announced today that it will exclusively world premiere Zack Snyder's director's cut of the Warner Bros. Pictures/DC feature film Justice League in 2021. Snyder surprised fans with the news this morning during a live online commentary of his film Man of Steel with Henry Cavill.

#ReleaseTheSnyderCut first became a passionate rallying social media cry among fans in 2017 and has not let up. From countless press articles and hundreds of thousands of social media mentions, it became a powerful global movement among cinephiles and comic book fans.

"I want to thank HBO Max and Warner Brothers for this brave gesture of supporting artists and allowing their true visions to be realized. Also a special thank you to all of those involved in the SnyderCut movement for making this a reality," said Snyder.

"Since I got here 14 months ago, the chant to #ReleaseTheSnyderCut has been a daily drumbeat in our offices and inboxes. Well, the fans have asked, and we are thrilled to finally deliver. At the end of the day, it really is all about them and we are beyond excited to be able to release Zack's ultimate vision for this film in 2021. This could never have happened if it weren't for the hard work and combined efforts of the teams at HBO Max and Warner Bros. Pictures," said Robert Greenblatt, Chairman, Warner Media Entertainment and Direct-To-Consumer.

"When Zack and Debbie shared the extraordinary vision of where Zack wanted to take Justice League, my team and our counterparts at Warner Bros. took it as a mission to solve the many issues that stood in the way," said Kevin Reilly, Chief Content Officer at HBO Max, President, TNT, TBS and truTV. "Thanks to the partnership at Warner Bros. and the relentless pursuit of the entire WarnerMax team we are able to deliver this incredibly exciting moment for Zack, the fans and HBO Max."

"Thanks to the efforts of a lot people, we're excited to bring fans this highly anticipated version of Justice League," said Toby Emmerich, Chairman, Warner Bros. Pictures Group. "This feels like the right time to share Zack's story, and HBO Max is the perfect platform for it. We're glad the creative planets aligned, allowing us to #ReleaseTheSnyderCut."

Source: https://pressroom.warnermediagroup.com/us/media-release/hbo-max-releasethesnydercut?language_content_entity=en

Of course, Toby Emmerich will never publicly apologise for lying about the reshoots. No matter, as long as WB doesn't interfere with finishing the story that Snyder had planned, we should all be should be happy.

Meanwhile, new WarnerMedia CEO Jason Kilar paid tribute to the fanbase on Twitter:

I (and the @WarnerMedia team) have been so impressed - and moved - by the passion exhibited by the #releasethesyndercut fan base. Stories matter, storytellers matter. Am thrilled for @ZackSnyder and the team that will be bringing this story to all of us as fans. What a great day.

https://twitter.com/jasonkilar/status/1263169213557911562

Stories matter, storytellers matter. I'm not a marketing expert, but that seems like a great line to build trust between creative talent and customer relations. If WarnerMedia keeps it up, I guess I can stop berating them. Hopefully this means they live up to their words as a "filmmaker driven studio", instead of trying to emulate the current MCU trend.

"You Can't Save The World Alone"

Boy, the fans have really embodied that philosophy.

100%.

If anybody from the movement is reading this, THANK YOU.

Deborah Snyder expressed her gratitude to the fans, following the news.



As I said before, it kinda sucks we have to wait for another year, but A) there's still work that needs to be done to satisfy the intended vision then so be it, and B) in hindsight, it's for the best business-wise. HBO Max is opening in America next week, but international distribution won't be ready till next year. Once it's open, I'll subscribe immediately.

Meanwhile, Joe Manganiello hinted there was more to his Deathstroke cameo than what we saw in Josstice League.



I've got a rough idea what it might mean, but I'm curious to read other guesses first.

[The Laughing Fish]

[The Dark Knight]

Meanwhile, Joe Manganiello hinted there was more to his Deathstroke cameo than what we saw in Josstice League.



I've got a rough idea what it might mean, but I'm curious to read other guesses first.

He was going to be the villain in the solo film, so I imagine it's something related to that. Whether or not Batfleck actually appears in the flesh is another matter. Deathstroke receiving a contract from Lex is my guess at this point. Lex put hits out on people several times in BvS, and he has added beef with Batman for being placed inside Arkham. And of course helping revive Superman.

Something I'm curious to know is if Snyder addressed Clark's secret identity at all. I'm thinking he would have, but I haven't seen anything concrete around it. I did read a rumor that Lois introduces Perry White to "Clark Kent a.k.a Superman", which would be a brief explanation as to Snyder's intent. I think it could be possible, especially as an bookend to Man of Steel's ending.

Laurence didn't appear at all during the original JL shoot from what I gather, but the scene could be set up in a way that he wasn't needed, or he did appear but only for a very brief cameo. We'll know next year.

[thecolorsblend]

Obviously, one of the big questions everybody has is just how complete Snyder's cut was before he exited the film. Putting aside the misinformation that's been intentionally spread around, it's clear that a ton of stuff was completed for the SC. But how much? And what specifically?

Well, picture lock for one thing. Originally, I assumed that Snyder didn't have a locked picture but Screen Rant did some detective work. And they discovered that the only way Snyder could've made certain public statements and social media posts is if he was working with a locked picture.

https://screenrant.com/justice-league-zack-snyder-cut-finished-vfx-editing

This is not post-hoc wishful thinking either. The article is dated 2018, long before yesterday's announcement. The writer makes a very compelling argument behind why Snyder was making so much progress when all parties involved acknowledged that cuts would have to be made. It's definitely worth a read. It gets slightly technical but it isn't too bad.

[The Dark Knight]

Junkie XL has a complete soundtrack all ready to go (good riddance John Williams and hello Zimmer of Steel theme) so I think that gives a good hint about the status of Snyder's film. He is on the record saying: "The full score is still there. It's a really great score, and it's just there. It never goes away. We'll see what happens in the future, you know?"

Hopefully there's an official release of the score on iTunes at some point. As for the movie, from a business point of view, you'd imagine HBO will want to keep it on there for a decent length of time as a subscription hook. Which is absolutely understandable. Much like The Mandalorian on Disney Plus. But once enough time has has passed, it moves to Blu-ray.

Thinking aloud generally now - Affleck trained his ass off for Justice League and had that same BvS hunger. You can see that in the Snyder/Whedon comparison shots. Then imagine being called back later and hearing 'we need you to re-film everything again with new scenes'. It would be like writing a long essay and having that work deleted, and I know how that feels. Knowing all you did was for nought, and in Ben's case, knowing worldwide audiences would only be seeing the new content you've yet to film. Thus you wear tags such as 'he looked disinterested and overweight'.

Before the HBO announcement I was convinced Cavill would never play Superman again. But this changes everything. I think there's a chance, and I've seen articles here and there somewhat recently alluding to that, with the Supergirl idea maybe being shelved.

[thecolorsblend]

Junkie XL has a complete soundtrack all ready to go (good riddance John Williams and hello Zimmer of Steel theme) so I think that gives a good hint about the status of Snyder's film. He is on the record saying: "The full score is still there. It's a really great score, and it's just there. It never goes away. We'll see what happens in the future, you know?"

Hopefully there's an official release of the score on iTunes at some point. As for the movie, from a business point of view, you'd imagine HBO will want to keep it on there for a decent length of time as a subscription hook. Which is absolutely understandable. Much like The Mandalorian on Disney Plus. But once enough time has has passed, it moves to Blu-ray.

Thinking aloud generally now - Affleck trained his ass off for Justice League and had that same BvS hunger. You can see that in the Snyder/Whedon comparison shots. Then imagine being called back later and hearing 'we need you to re-film everything again with new scenes'. It would be like writing a long essay and having that work deleted, and I know how that feels. Knowing all you did was for nought, and in Ben's case, knowing worldwide audiences would only be seeing the new content you've yet to film. Thus you wear tags such as 'he looked disinterested and overweight'.

Before the HBO announcement I was convinced Cavill would never play Superman again. But this changes everything. I think there's a chance, and I've seen articles here and there somewhat recently alluding to that, with the Supergirl idea maybe being shelved.

Mmm...

I mean, who can say how things will be a year from now? But at the same time, I wonder that the SC won't be the start of some type of DCEU renaissance. For starters, nobody knows when the next Marvel film is coming. It could be a year away, or even longer. For seconders... Endgame. I maintain that movie could be the last stop for a lot of fans. "It was a great ride but it's over now". That type of thing. Sure, the movies will continue and sure, people will keep seeing them. But the MCU has peaked, I'm thinking.

There's an opening now for Snyder. Or at least, there could be.

Does that mean getting the band back together? I honestly don't know how that would even be possible at this point. Or if it's even desirable. But the SC will probably show audiences a depth and sophistication they're not readily accustomed to from the MCU when the MCU may still be out of commission.

Something else is the critics. Guys, get ready. You thought things were bad before? The critics are mostly access-journalism shills who enjoy crapping on fans, calling everything and everybody "toxic" and all that jazz. And the fans just won. Snyder, their old enemy, is the beneficiary.

The knives will be out for the SC. Don't be shocked if it scores 23% on Rotten Tomatoes from the critics. They'll be out for blood this time, I think. I hope I'm wrong. But I look at how gas-lit even some "fans" are ("AT&T is giving in to cyber-bullying!") and I can only imagine how savage the critics will be when the SC comes along.

Level up, boys and girls. Cuz I think it'll get pretty ugly before this thing is over.

[The Dark Knight]

Does that mean getting the band back together?

They've signed up a whole new Batman cast for a new series, but even then I wouldn't necessarily rule anything out now. Would Affleck come back, even if just for cameos? He is on the record about health fears and such, but he's also very loyal to Snyder. IF Affleck came back, would the studio be willing to have two Batman actors on the big screen concurrently? They were willing to do JOKER, so it's feasible. At the very least, Ben gets the Snyder cut out there. I think the door is open a lot more with Cavill. His films could be more standalone in nature. The Snyder cut helps wake up the Superman brand, and I'm starting to feel the fire of that fandom again.

But the SC will probably show audiences a depth and sophistication they're not readily accustomed to from the MCU when the MCU may still be out of commission.

Abso-funkin-lutely. The level of detail is insane, as the BvS influences videos on Youtube demonstrate.

Something else is the critics. Guys, get ready. You thought things were bad before? The critics are mostly access-journalism shills who enjoy crapping on fans, calling everything and everybody "toxic" and all that jazz. And the fans just won. Snyder, their old enemy, is the beneficiary.

The knives will be out for the SC. Don't be shocked if it scores 23% on Rotten Tomatoes from the critics. They'll be out for blood this time, I think. I hope I'm wrong. But I look at how gas-lit even some "fans" are ("AT&T is giving in to cyber-bullying!") and I can only imagine how savage the critics will be when the SC comes along.

I'm positive that will happen. I've always maintained most of the criticism directed at Snyder is because of a personal grudge.

[The Laughing Fish]

Here is the promotional trailer containing highlights from the last half hour of that MOS Watch Party.

Some of the JL actors have recorded their reaction to the good news.

Here is Ben Affleck saying thanks to the fans for their support for Snyder's JL; footage was originally taken from Kevin Smith's show.

Here is Jason Momoa expressing his excitement following the news.

Finally, here is Ray Fisher paying an emotional tribute to the fans for their support, particularly to those who donated money to charity to raise suicide awareness.

Something else is the critics. Guys, get ready. You thought things were bad before? The critics are mostly access-journalism shills who enjoy crapping on fans, calling everything and everybody "toxic" and all that jazz. And the fans just won. Snyder, their old enemy, is the beneficiary.

The knives will be out for the SC. Don't be shocked if it scores 23% on Rotten Tomatoes from the critics. They'll be out for blood this time, I think. I hope I'm wrong. But I look at how gas-lit even some "fans" are ("AT&T is giving in to cyber-bullying!") and I can only imagine how savage the critics will be when the SC comes along.

Level up, boys and girls. Cuz I think it'll get pretty ugly before this thing is over.

The bloggers already started sharpening their knives. Following the announcement, the scumbags at Rotten Tomatoes tweeted their ranking of Snyder's films by highlighting the meaningless "rotten" scores. One of the films they highlighted was Josstice League. Laughable. And of course those access media shills at Collider and CBR spun their little narrative that Snyder cut fans "bullied" the studio into caving into their demands.

But even more laughable was somebody who had the nerve to suggest that Snyder's fulfilling his vision of Justice League is disrespectful of Whedon's work. I'm not kidding, I read somebody saying this. I can't even be bothered to deconstruct out the total idiocy of such a statement.

I'll tell you what's bullying conduct: critics and detractors such as the deadbeat editor-in-chief at RT declaring everyone who worked on BvS should be punched in the face. Subhuman trash who made vile "jokes" at Snyder's expense over his daughter's tragic suicide. Comic book writers who celebrated when Snyder left (or likely removed) because of the terrible circumstances. Bloggers who took every opportunity to slander the fans as "white male dudebros (wtf does that mean?), alt-right incels" or any baseless slander they could think of. And of course, there's the baseless accusations of MOS and BvS as well as Snyder himself as full of objectivist propaganda.

These pathetic wastes of human flesh project their own failures for one thing, and make no mistake about it: they enjoyed the idea of manipulating the studio and controlling the narrative with their hyperbole. And yes, make no mistake, they're PISSED OFF that the fans took that control away from them.

As long as WarnerMedia and AT&T maintain their new approach, these pieces of trash can stay mad. At the end of the day, product demand - and dare I say, compassion - wins.

In the meantime, the movement showed their gratitude with a banner in the sky.