Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

Started by The Laughing Fish, Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:52

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Fri, 22 May 2020, 13:49 #50 Last Edit: Sat, 23 May 2020, 00:26 by thecolorsblend
I'm a bit fed up with getting smeared as some alt right klan guy or whatever. All I ever wanted was to watch a movie. I never wanted to hurt anybody or end someone's career or anything.

I felt let down by Whedon's work on the film. That doesn't make me a criminal; I'm just a jerk with an opinion and an iPhone. That's it! The critics, shills and all the rest possess truly dark and ugly souls for slandering normies and civilian fans for the temerity of expressing an opinion.

I shall put this delicately. But one reason that crowdfunded comics do so well is because a lot of those creators understand that when comic pros mock, harass and humiliate fans, those fans vote with their wallets. So the crowdfunders create a sort of breezy, light, party atmosphere where everything is fun and welcoming. Surprise surprise, those comics sell a mint.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri, 22 May  2020, 13:49
I'm a bit fed up with getting smeared as some alt right klan guy or whatever. All I ever wanted was to watch a movie. I never wanted to hurt anybody or end someone's career or anything.

Unfortunately, it's the majority of geek fandom these days. I was called a raving sexist multiple times for not liking Captain Marvel, I've been called a racist multiple times now for many different things, and of course, when it comes to Snyder, I've been called a sexist "Snyder Bro", and I'm not even a huge Snyder advocate. He's not even close to being my favorite director, but just liking his movies will get you labeled some crazy stuff.

I don't know what happened, but it's been crazy since around 2013. It invaded standup and videogames heavily, too. You just have to laugh at the woke weirdos, and do you r best not to fall on landmines or set off woke-nukes. But it seems to be inevitable, lol.

Quote from: Travesty on Fri, 22 May  2020, 21:53
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri, 22 May  2020, 13:49
I'm a bit fed up with getting smeared as some alt right klan guy or whatever. All I ever wanted was to watch a movie. I never wanted to hurt anybody or end someone's career or anything.

Unfortunately, it's the majority of geek fandom these days. I was called a raving sexist multiple times for not liking Captain Marvel, I've been called a racist multiple times now for many different things, and of course, when it comes to Snyder, I've been called a sexist "Snyder Bro", and I'm not even a huge Snyder advocate. He's not even close to being my favorite director, but just liking his movies will get you labeled some crazy stuff.

I don't know what happened, but it's been crazy since around 2013. It invaded standup and videogames heavily, too. You just have to laugh at the woke weirdos, and do you r best not to fall on landmines or set off woke-nukes. But it seems to be inevitable, lol.

It can be very depressing because it's so prevalent in society. Most people don't even know it but they don't even have their own opinions. They just accept whatever they're told on 'the news' and don't look any deeper. Even after they've been mislead they still don't pivot their thinking, and continue trusting those sources. News is the narrative and nothing but the narrative.

If you tell the zombies what is really going on YOU get looked at like the crazy person. The problem is this simple: the political persuasion of the overwhelming majority of actors, writers and singers is left wing. And the positions of those people are validated as 'the social norm' by the news media, who are also overwhelmingly left wing. Even one conservative news outlet isn't acceptable to them.

I honestly don't have that much issue with someone's personal politics, even if I thoroughly disagree with their ideas. It's when those ideas seep into their mainstream work, making derogatory statements about the world and my place in it. These same people complain about propaganda, but they are the biggest pushers of it. We are simply responding to what they're putting out. I didn't get the memo where we all have to agree. And because we need to, apparently, but don't, the war erupts.

I could add more reasons why this has happened to the world, but will refrain from doing so.

From the Snyder cut, everyone will greatly benefit. Cavill the most, as JL will give him a true trilogy. JL was something I had filed away and forgotten about, but now it's the centre of the DC universe again. The CGI mouth saga was just pure embarrassment and shame.

So much to look forward to in all aspects of the film. The warehouse actually being a warehouse, and not pretending it's the batcave. Bruce talking about the knightmare. Attaching the cannon to the Batmobile - bringing Keaton's mechanic work from BR to mind. Seeing the battle damaged armor suit. Batfleck wanting to die to atone for his prior conduct. And so it goes on. I'm also hoping there's more from the Knightcrawler, which I've also felt to be a cool vehicle, and completely wasted in Josstice League.


Quote from: Travesty on Fri, 22 May  2020, 21:53
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri, 22 May  2020, 13:49
I'm a bit fed up with getting smeared as some alt right klan guy or whatever. All I ever wanted was to watch a movie. I never wanted to hurt anybody or end someone's career or anything.

Unfortunately, it's the majority of geek fandom these days. I was called a raving sexist multiple times for not liking Captain Marvel, I've been called a racist multiple times now for many different things, and of course, when it comes to Snyder, I've been called a sexist "Snyder Bro", and I'm not even a huge Snyder advocate. He's not even close to being my favorite director, but just liking his movies will get you labeled some crazy stuff.

I don't know what happened, but it's been crazy since around 2013. It invaded standup and videogames heavily, too. You just have to laugh at the woke weirdos, and do you r best not to fall on landmines or set off woke-nukes. But it seems to be inevitable, lol.

These woke wankers not only slander fans, they even use hyperbole as a dirty tactic to control what movies THEY think people should see. As you said, you got called sexist for not liking Captain Marvel, and I've seen people getting accused of being toxic males for liking - get this - Alita: Battle Angel.

Another example is Joaquin Phoenix's Joker. I know I said I wasn't interested in that movie, but even I could see their speculations how "it could inspire incel violence" was just their way of deterring people from watching it. It's pure bullsh*t. These critics ought to put their money where their mouth is and start all boycotting films featuring psychopathic characters, if they're so worried about how they could inspire "the wrong message".

All the rhetoric they use is just a form of censorship. Thankfully, WarnerMedia and A&T appeared to have learned their lesson and started listening to the fanbase. Not the wrong people that helped derailed JL and the wider DCEU in the first place.

I've found this great video that describes the idiocy of certain blogs.



And here is this article that deconstructs the twisted logic behind certain sites using every baseless negative term to condemn Snyder cut fans. As this analysis wisely puts it, these blogs are only showing their contempt for the cast and crew who supported the release of the film.

https://boundingintocomics.com/2020/05/22/screenrant-collider-and-vulture-attack-fans-and-actors-after-zack-snyder-and-henry-cavill-announce-snyder-cut-for-hbo-max/

But have no fear, everyone. As long as you see the film and make it a success, BE HAPPY! We will continue to show these deadbeat gatekeepers they don't matter.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Looking back at my earlier posts in this thread, you can tell that AT&T and HBO Max were hinting the announcement.

AT&T alone is maintaining fan engagement with their replies on Twitter.

Here are two images of multiple screenshots I collected. Hint: if the site has scaled them and you can't see them, copy and paste them in Paint for a better look.





A massive turnaround for the better.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

So I'm not well versed in everything about the Snyder Cut, but I remember hearing rumors about Green Lantern. Was that true, or do we know?

Quote from: Travesty on Sat, 23 May  2020, 23:16
So I'm not well versed in everything about the Snyder Cut, but I remember hearing rumors about Green Lantern. Was that true, or do we know?

It hasn't been clarified quite yet, but an actor called Sam Benjamin has hinted he was cast as GL.

https://thefanboyseo.com/2019/11/29/we-almost-had-a-green-lantern-in-zack-snyders-justice-league/

QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: Travesty on Sat, 23 May  2020, 23:16
So I'm not well versed in everything about the Snyder Cut, but I remember hearing rumors about Green Lantern. Was that true, or do we know?
There was talk of Bruce being visited by Kilowog and Tomar-Re in a credits scene, but I'm unsure about the status of that.

Snyder confirmed a while ago the ending at Wayne Manor was shot by him. From a pure thematic sense I think it's a great idea as it represents Bruce's soul being healed - a vacant place being filled with a new family after being neglected for so long. I think that alone gives Batfleck a sense of closure (though AT&T's Twitter is being particularly playful on future possibilities).

The military influence which was key part of MoS and BvS returning is something I'm keen on seeing. There's meant to be a subplot involving them, plus the military apparently firing upon Superman as he's resurrected. There's also storyboard of Superman recreating his first flight from MoS which hopefully gets sliced in. Clark and Lois at the farm is also greatly needed for character development. 

Circling back to critics, there's no doubt whatsoever what their game is. These two images below speak for themselves:




Midnight's Edge broadly assumes the editorial viewpoint of "We're not fans of Snyder's DCEU". But they always try to be fair to everyone and they still support releasing ZSJL for a variety of reasons. Their intel is usually pretty reliable too.

In this video, they get into some of the drama and nonsense with Snyder's work that even I never heard before. Worth watching at 1.25 or 1.5


I gave the video and look, and he makes good points. All the reasons why WB would never release the film all still exist, and there were absolutely rational reasons for people to think that way. Going back in time opens up a can of worms for them in a number of areas.

IF the studio got in touch with Snyder I'm convinced it was under the strong direction of AT&T. I still can't imagine WB initiating this. If AT&T are waiting to see how the film is received on HBO Max, and it's a roaring success, things will really start to get interesting.  For example, if Cavil gets another solo film, do they keep him in the black suit?  Snyder said Superman wore the black suit throughout JL, and this includes the shirt rip at the end. The suit would've remained for the next couple of films before the red and blue returned.

It was clever from Snyder's POV to share this information, as people know when something is a deviation and when it's not. Which would put AT&T in an interesting situation if they did embrace expanding this particular universe and staying in the good books with fans.