Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

Started by The Laughing Fish, Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:52

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Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon, 29 Mar  2021, 03:53
And I'll lose a lot of respect for AT&T's (heretofore amazing) collective business acumen.
Indeed. If you have power, use it. If anything happens I see it being small screen only. Which I'd accept with open arms, especially a Batfleck miniseries. I don't think WB's big screen plans are going to be impacted in any serious way.

Has anybody watched the Justice is Gray edition yet? ZSJL looks so immaculate in black and white. Any CGI imperfections that may stick out is very unnoticeable in this version. That's how well it blends.

It's nice to watch all the scenes that Snyder shared on Vero over the last couple of years come to life, using the exact same black and white colours as we saw in photos. A great little gift for those who followed the Snyder cut saga very closely.

During the week, Joe Manganiello tweeted this photo of Knightmare Deathstroke, along with the hashtags #RestoreTheSnyderVerse and #Deathstroke.



https://twitter.com/JoeManganiello/status/1377094986102018051

This makes him the fourth ZSJL actor to show support for the franchise, along with Ray Fisher, Ray Porter and C. Amanda Maud (the actress who played the struggling working-class mother who Cyborg helped).

You can tell Manganiello really wants to get a proper chance to play Deathstroke badly. A few months ago, a new Twitter account was created to petition for the character to get his own HBO Max show, much to his approval.



Meanwhile, other companies that supported the hashtag were Subway - which had tweeted #ReleaseTheSnyderCut several times back in late 2019 - and Weta Workshop, who are making of ZSJL characters.

https://twitter.com/SUBWAY/status/1377317344079454214

https://twitter.com/WetaWorkshop/status/1377349987747692550

With such demand, how can any studio say no?

Finally, Harry Lennix revealed that Martian Manhunter and John Stewart were originally in the epilogue before Snyder was forced to compromise.

QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Snyder has shared a deleted alternate moment from the Knightmare Epilogue scene, with Joker saying "We live in a society where honour is a distant memory".

https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1378007017202229249?s=20

I read somewhere that Leto ad-libbed that line, but I wish it was kept in the final cut. This might mean that Joker killed both Robin and Harley Quinn. Brutal.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Concept artist Jojo Aguilar has shared this artwork of the John Stewart Green Lantern, along with other images of Granny Goodness, Martian Manhunter and Joker.



https://twitter.com/jojoaguilar33/status/1377813105728614400

I want to know who played GL. Snyder confirmed he shot the footage in his own driveway, together with the MM scene we saw in the final cut.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

^It looks we may have discovered who played John Stewart. A Twitter user guessed the actor was Wayne T. Carr, judging by his likeness in the concept art, and sharing an undated picture with Ray Fisher.



https://twitter.com/uberkryptonian/status/1377820987941658624

It seems this is true, as the actor signed up on Twitter yesterday, and tweeted the hashtag #RestoreTheSnyderVerse together with the money shot of the League charging towards Steppenwolf's base.

https://twitter.com/WayneTCarr/status/1379290079877681154

Judging by Rayseid's endorsement, this is all but confirms Carr really was John Stewart before Warner Butchers forced Zack to remove his part from ZSJL.

Quote from: Ray Porter
Respect to this good man.

https://twitter.com/Ray__Porter/status/1379326815827681281

We really need to see that deleted scene now.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Wed, 24 Mar  2021, 00:46
Even if the Snyderverse didn't continue I'd settle for one Batfleck miniseries which featured Grayson's death, Wayne Manor being burned and a modern day plotline involving Deathstroke coming after both Bruce Wayne and Batman.
When one absorbs the spirit of ZSJL they see just how much of an emotional freight train Affleck's script is. In ZSJL, Batfleck is operating purely from faith and he's optimistic after forming the League. The angst of BvS seems like a thing of the past. But it isn't: things get a lot more darker. Which begs the question of how Batman reacts to that. I suspect he tapped into the darkness but managed to restrain himself against all odds, unlike his response to Superman. That would have been fascinating to see, and would've been a lesson to never let your guard down. When you start to feel safe, it's time to worry.

QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

How convenient HBO Max posted this "trilogy" trailer on the day when the new trailer for Snyder's latest film Army of the Dead debuted.



Last time I checked, trilogies don't end in cliffhangers.

I'm so sick of how corrupt and petty the entire structure at Warner is. ZSJL will be the last WB related content I'll ever support.

From one sabotage to another with the Josstice League reshoots, the DC FanDome trailer taken down due to an inexplicable copyright error, leaking trailers, leaking the film in place of Tom & Jerry a week before it came out. Enough is enough. Any DCEU who wants the rest of the arc but is still planning to support WB's other movies have no right to complain. Studios that don't respect fans or even actors and directors don't deserve your money.

If AT&T wonders why their content suddenly underperforms, they can only blame themselves for not getting rid of toxic elements within their subsidiary.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Tue, 13 Apr  2021, 11:29
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Wed, 24 Mar  2021, 00:46
Even if the Snyderverse didn't continue I'd settle for one Batfleck miniseries which featured Grayson's death, Wayne Manor being burned and a modern day plotline involving Deathstroke coming after both Bruce Wayne and Batman.
When one absorbs the spirit of ZSJL they see just how much of an emotional freight train Affleck's script is. In ZSJL, Batfleck is operating purely from faith and he's optimistic after forming the League. The angst of BvS seems like a thing of the past. But it isn't: things get a lot more darker. Which begs the question of how Batman reacts to that. I suspect he tapped into the darkness but managed to restrain himself against all odds, unlike his response to Superman. That would have been fascinating to see, and would've been a lesson to never let your guard down. When you start to feel safe, it's time to worry.
Further to this I've since read Joker War.

There are notable similarities to Affleck's script and the overall Snyderverse.

1. Joker's plan is to make Gotham hate Batman and ruin Bruce Wayne's reputation
2. Alfred is dead and serves as a spiritual mentor (Deathstroke would kill Batfleck allies)
3. Harley wants Batman to kill the Joker (ZSJL epilogue)
4. Calls in the Bat Family for help (Batgirl would assist in Affleck's script)

Joker War is perhaps not a classic modern classic but the makings of a strong story are there. I'm convinced these plot points would make a focused and high stakes movie. It's now very clear the original Justice League trajectory is dead because they're calling MoS/BvS/ZSJL a trilogy even though it's common knowledge the story continues because Zack outlined the plot beats. I'll always appreciate HBO Max for getting the Snyder cut out there. But if the Deathstroke movie isn't made after such high demand they really were a toothless tiger in the aftermath.

I'm not sure how reliable this info is, but someone who works in data analytics claimed to have his team gather the figures of various streaming figures worldwide, minus Google Play.

Quote
I borrowed my team for a few hours this morning to track the streaming no.s of
@snydercut

Using different data metrics, different analytical platforms & tools combined with our system - this is what we found.
Biggest difference is the HBO Max USA numbers.
#RestoreTheSnyderVerse


Biggest difference is the HBO Max USA numbers. #RestoreTheSnyderVerse

These are ONLY for the opening weekend - 18 to 22 March.
Total streams/views from 18 March until today, are 2/3 multiple of these numbers for each region.
Which means:
HBO Max - 10m
Crave - 3.3m
UK - 3.3m
Asia - 7.8m
Aus/NZ - 2.55m
South America- 3/4m
Europe - 6.7m
Africa - 675k

https://www.twitter.com/Dantani/status/1382340663820349442

It's crazy that WW84 gets a sequel greenlit, despite by all accounts most people said the film was mediocre and a step below from the first WW film, yet ZSJL gets ignored despite positive feedback and calls for a continuation.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei