Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

[thecolorsblend]

This is gossip. Treat it that way. But this report alleges that ZSJL is grand slam.

https://geekositymag.com/hbo-max-and-netflix-offering-zack-snyder-exclusivity-deals

Now, the thinking goes that movie studios are generally reluctant to share viewership stats, even if they're amazing. For that reason, the assumption everyone seems to be making is that we'll never see the official numbers for ZSJL.

Thing is tho, I don't know if that applies here. As I've said, AT&T isn't rly part of Hollywood. And corporations flex all the time. It's part of building an image of success. McDonald's has their victory lap on all their signs. "Over 1 Billion Served!" It's good branding.

So, don't discount the possibility that ZSJL numbers might find their way to the public somehow if those numbers are awesome.

[The Laughing Fish]

Well, what a way to piss off the fans and general audiences who loved ZSJL, WarnerMedia CEO Ann Sarnoff has said Snyder's "trilogy" is complete. In addition to saying there will be no Ayer cut of Suicide Squad, she is indirectly calling Ray Fisher a liar while backing up Walter Hamada.

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/zack-snyder-justice-league-suicide-squad-ray-fisher-warnermedia-1234935580/

Pathetic. Hopefully AT&T steps in and fixes this mess.

[thecolorsblend]

Well, what a way to piss off the fans and general audiences who loved ZSJL, WarnerMedia CEO Ann Sarnoff has said Snyder's "trilogy" is complete. In addition to saying there will be no Ayer cut of Suicide Squad, she is indirectly calling Ray Fisher a liar while backing up Walter Hamada.

https://variety.com/2021/film/news/zack-snyder-justice-league-suicide-squad-ray-fisher-warnermedia-1234935580/

Pathetic. Hopefully AT&T steps in and fixes this mess.

HBO Max is a WarnerMedia brand, of which Sarnoff is the CEO. So, in theory, her word is final. Or it would be. But as a matter of practicality, the chain of command ultimately ends in one place: John Stankey, the (unfortunately named) CEO of AT&T.

Idk this to be true. But I'm thinking that Stankey might not want to waltz into an AT&T board meeting and tell the members that he stood down on making a sequel to the only hit HBO Max has ever had because he wanted to protect his subordinate's ego. After spending 85 g*dd*mn billion dollars to buy Time Warner and no significant ROI so far, that might be the opposite of what the AT&T board wants to hear at the moment.

Ain't no such thing as a sure thing. I'm just saying that Sarnoff can blab about whatever she wants in a softball Variety interview... but the REAL decision is likely to be made above her level.

Normally, I can post bs like this and we'll never know if I'm right. But in this case, Sarnoff went and painted herself into a corner. She's saying "no" in that Variety interview. So, if some kind of continuation of the Snyderverse happens anyway, we'll know someone pulled rank on her. So, I'll be proven very very right or else very very wrong.

[The Dark Knight]

HBO Max is a WarnerMedia brand, of which Sarnoff is the CEO. So, in theory, her word is final. Or it would be. But as a matter of practicality, the chain of command ultimately ends in one place: John Stankey, the (unfortunately named) CEO of AT&T.

All this means naught if AT&T don't act. Grace Randolph has now tweeted "let's see what HBO Max decides" and "we should know if that's happening in the next month or so." That's why I said focus on a Snyderverse continuation right now. I want the Ayer cut, but that's a true dead end that can be revisited at any time.

[The Laughing Fish]

From The Cultured Nerd's Instagram account.



Sarnoff's boss is Jason Kilar, who has been very supportive of ZSJL. Maybe let's wait and see what happens next.

[The Laughing Fish]

Not sure if this is reliable info, but it appears ZSJL narrowly outperformed the debut episode of The Falcon and The Winter Soldier in terms of views, and the new MCU show was Disney+'s biggest debut to date.

https://heroichollywood.com/justice-league-falcon-winter-soldier-views/

Once again, don't take the following info for granted, but Mikey Sutton of Geekosity claims he's very confident any plans for the Snyderverse to continue will be on HBO Max, despite Variety's hit piece.

https://geekositymag.com/zack-snyders-snyderverse-will-live-on-in-hbo-max/

[thecolorsblend]

I have a browser folder that I use as a dumping ground for interesting stuff. I just bookmark it, come back to it later, read/watch it and delete it.

Ages ago, I bookmarked https://www.cnbc.com/2020/12/04/att-dismantles-time-warner-to-battle-netflix-the-inside-story.html and finally came back to it today. There's some pretty telling commentary going on there. I've maintained that AT&T generally (and the CEO John Stankey) will ultimately make the final call on the Snyderverse's future. Specifically, whether or not it even has a future.

Basically, nothing in this article leads me to believe that AT&T sees an immediate reason to stand down on the Snyderverse. In light of ZSJL's success, there are compelling business reasons to bring Snyder back for more.

It's a bit of a dry read (as might be expected from CNBC). But when you drill down to the bottom of it, what you find is facts that cast a different light on all this drama than what Ann Sarnoff is likely to mention in some fluffy Variety interview.

In terms of HBO Max, people have suggested continuing the Snyderverse there as if that's some type of comedown. On the contrary, reading between the lines in that article suggests that more Snyderverse on HBO Max is probably the ideal scenario, at least if Stankey has his way.

Bottom line, there are good reasons to think AT&T would want to bring Snyder back.

[The Dark Knight]

I feel that before Snyder came back there'd have to be some miniseries of some kind to tie up ZSJL's loose ends. If there's just one of these, Batfleck is the obvious contender given the scene on board the yacht. It would be the right time to do it, because after ZSJL3 he really would be done with the role forever. Aquaman's solo movie could be considered true canon if making these productions is like drawing blood from a stone.

I hesitantly post this link because I'm sceptical of their sources.

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/ben-affleck-reportedly-batman-movies-flash/

Do AT&T have the guts to pull the trigger?

[thecolorsblend]

I feel that before Snyder came back there'd have to be some miniseries of some kind to tie up ZSJL's loose ends. If there's just one of these, Batfleck is the obvious contender given the scene on board the yacht. It would be the right time to do it, because after ZSJL3 he really would be done with the role forever. Aquaman's solo movie could be considered true canon if making these productions is like drawing blood from a stone.

I hesitantly post this link because I'm sceptical of their sources.

https://wegotthiscovered.com/movies/ben-affleck-reportedly-batman-movies-flash/

Do AT&T have the guts to pull the trigger?

You're skeptical of their sources? I think it makes more sense to be skeptical of WGTC point blank.

Still... even a broken clock is right twice per day, yes? We can say what we want about WGTC (and their sources) but I think there's logic behind the idea of Affleck sticking around.

Even before ZSJL, his Batman was the subject of a pretty serious reappraisal. People were starting to give him another look anyway. I think ZSJL is only throwing fuel on that fire.

Now, back in 2018, it made sense for Affleck to call it a day. But I don't think it makes sense anymore. It's franchise money, he's in great shape and the demand for him to reprise the role is building. There's some logic in sticking around after all.

As for AT&T, I have little doubt they would love to be attached to a star of Affleck's caliber. It's zero-risk for them, plus he has an existing fan following.

Maybe I'm wrong. But I think Batman is Affleck's to lose. Because everyone else wouldn't think twice about having him back.

[The Dark Knight]

I'm skeptical of anything said about anything. I go by gut feel, and it's been more right than wrong in my lifetime.

Even if the Snyderverse didn't continue I'd settle for one Batfleck miniseries which featured Grayson's death, Wayne Manor being burned and a modern day plotline involving Deathstroke coming after both Bruce Wayne and Batman. BvS is the centre of everything with this incarnation. Expanding upon what we've already seen would be a free hit. Easter eggs become something much more as the world is then fully fleshed out. 

I think a lot also hinges on what script is provided for Affleck in Flashpoint. If WB kills him off, it makes any HBO Max continuations more difficult to explain. The big screen is their domain, and it could be their last attempt at closing this loop.