Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

Started by The Laughing Fish, Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:52

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Not watching the trailer. My popcorn is ready for the big day, and it will last four hours. Going to be lots to talk about.

I don't know what the hell is going, but so far, ZSJL is surprisingly getting very positive reviews. The early fan feedback is unsurprisingly ecstatic, but even the majority of the critics seem to be very enthusiastic about it. Whether or not the sentiment will stay the same over the weekend remains to be seen.

As we're on the verge of the film's release day, Snyder sat down for an interview with The New York Times to speak about the cut's development. He spoke about his struggles behind the scenes back in 2017, how he thought DC needed to differentiate itself from Marvel's action-comedy formula by focusing on the mythology of the characters, and looks back at his unapologetic approach to film-making.

https://web.archive.org/web/20210316180401/https://www.nytimes.com/2021/03/14/movies/zack-snyders-rough-and-tumble-ride-with-justice-league.html
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 17 Mar  2021, 11:48but even the majority of the critics seem to be very enthusiastic about it.
Be that as it may, for sure I'm not reading anybody's review until after I see the movie myself. But even after watching it, I'm in no position to guarantee I'll read reviews.

As you might remember, I don't trust most film critics any further than I can throw them. If they're largely responding positively to ZSJL, good for them, I guess. But the time to do the right thing was five years ago and it's too late now for tradebacks.

Still, I've got plenty of popcorn, nachos and other snacks to get me through ZSJL's four'ish hour runtime. I have never depended upon consensus from others and there's no reason to start now that victory is in sight.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 17 Mar  2021, 12:21
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 17 Mar  2021, 11:48but even the majority of the critics seem to be very enthusiastic about it.
Be that as it may, for sure I'm not reading anybody's review until after I see the movie myself. But even after watching it, I'm in no position to guarantee I'll read reviews.

As you might remember, I don't trust most film critics any further than I can throw them. If they're largely responding positively to ZSJL, good for them, I guess. But the time to do the right thing was five years ago and it's too late now for tradebacks.

Still, I've got plenty of popcorn, nachos and other snacks to get me through ZSJL's four'ish hour runtime. I have never depended upon consensus from others and there's no reason to start now that victory is in sight.

I agree with you 100%. I'm only expressing my confusion over the positive critical consensus at this point in time, after years of critics deriding Snyder's work.

Tomorrow, I'll be able to stream this baby. Unless the streaming service I'm using sucks or the demand for the film causes it to crash, I shall occupy my evening without distraction.

Meanwhile, The Simpsons gave a nod to the Snyder cut.

https://vero.co/zacksnyder/kwSm-n2thr9xWjFMPq1tXnWj
https://vero.co/zacksnyder/JTN-KwQLQhT6BpLprVzSL3Z3
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Wed, 17 Mar  2021, 12:21
As you might remember, I don't trust most film critics any further than I can throw them. If they're largely responding positively to ZSJL, good for them, I guess. But the time to do the right thing was five years ago and it's too late now for tradebacks.
Very true.

There are so many people who are going to see ZSJL but don't have their heart in it. They're either not fans of the genre and look down upon it. Or they're Snyder haters, or simply prefer the Marvel route and want everybody to know it. That's the baggage sections of people are bringing to the table. To them, ZSJL is just another movie. But it's far from that for us. The ambivalent viewers haven't been sitting around waiting for the latest trailer or update. They're watching because ZSJL has become an international event, but there's simply no way for them to understand the importance of the moment for true fans.

A certain Batman website gave their thoughts on the movie and I'd honestly rather they didn't even get the opportunity to see the movie. A four hour spectacle involving Batman that was possibly under lock and key forever being dismissed as a side note is pure personal grudge. These Snyder haters don't get any respect from me whatsoever. Zack's following has been solidified among the true believers - if the general public truly put aside their baggage maybe I can see them in a more favorable light. But that's asking too much from certain people.

But enough of that. We stand on the threshold of greatness. Zack, I'm ready.

Hell with it, I'm watching ZSJL tonight.

If you don't know where to find it, idk what to tell you.

Thu, 18 Mar 2021, 00:33 #376 Last Edit: Thu, 18 Mar 2021, 13:46 by thecolorsblend
The first ten minutes of ZSJL is already far superior to the entirety of Josstice League. Those of you who choose to wait for tomorrow are in for a major league treat, believe me.

Edit 01- Forty minutes in and I still haven't seen one frame of footage from the Whedon cut.

Edit 02- Over an hour in and I must say, the pacing on ZSJL is rly something else. Smooth as glass. Absolutely incredible.

Edit 03- Putting it on pause until tomorrow. Loving it so far.

I watched ZSJL tonight.

Without a doubt, this is the true sequel to BvS. It removes Whedon's pointless quips and restores genuine dramatic weight to the characters, particularly Cyborg and The Flash. Steppenwolf was a menacing threat, instead of that dumbed-down version we got in theaters.

Thanks and congrats to all the fans, Zack Snyder and the cast and crew who succeeded in getting the real Justice League film as intended to see the light of day. Shame on Toby Emmerich, Geoff Johns, Joss Whedon and Jon Berg for locking this up in a vault and serving us a fugazi instead.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Thu, 18 Mar  2021, 00:33
The first ten minutes of ZSJL is already far superior to the entirety of Josstice League. Those of you who choose to wait for tomorrow are in for a major league treat, believe me.
I've just finished watching the movie. My initial thoughts are that the slow motion sequences are art. They alone make ZSJL a very different type of comic book movie and one we haven't seen before. When you add in the four hour runtime, we really are dealing with a whole other beast rather than vanilla mainstream.

The League converge nicely, feel developed, and with their personal demons feel like real people rather than just comic characters. The humor was just about perfect, managing to elicit a smile but not descending into cringe. It's a definitely more hopeful movie because Batman is hopeful.

This has got to be one of the best looking comic films you have ever seen. The soundtrack is excellent, and let's not speak about Elfman's version ever again. Steppenwolf is a much improved villain and one I care about a lot more. The search for the Motherboxes carries more weight, and by the time the members meet Gordon on the rooftop you're ready for the fight to begin. Everything feels earned.

Cyborg is definitely the main character here and Ray did a great job. I'm glad it's out there for people to see now. Batman didn't feature as much as I would've liked but he was handled with respect and had great moments to shine. That goes for all of the characters. Everything is improved across the board. It's a smorgasbord of a movie and another viewing will be in order soon.

The movie didn't meet my expectations. It exceeded them.


Finally finished the movie. Absolutely adored it. Weird how Superman is absent for most of the movie, and yet his presence is felt in every scene.

I said the first ten minutes of ZSJL are far superior to the entirety of Josstice League. I stand by that. But ZSJL as a complete package is simply on an entirely different plane from Whedon's thing.

Whedon attempted to make a goofy popcorn movie. Snyder made a true epic. The two simply do not deserve to be compared to one another.

Obviously, I want more. But, barring an official announcement to the contrary, I am proceeding on the assumption that we have seen the last of the Snyderverse. And if that's the case, what a note to go out on!

There is a lot to unpack with this movie. But until later (say Monday?), I think it would only be fair to avoid spoilers for now so that others can cruise around here freely.

My two cents.