Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

[thecolorsblend]

I'd let the movie speak for itself once it's released. Snyder's been posting black and white images of his cut but barely touches upon the content of them and this trailer does the same thing. To an audience that's not following this whole Release The Snyder Cut business, they probably don't quite know the details as to why this is even a thing. For them, a Director's Cut is just a longer version of what they've already seen. I hope this is something where we'll notice a significant change in tone without all of that Joss Whedon nonsense. This hopefully has no trace of that. The Donner Cut of Superman II still had Lester's touch on it.

There's been too much banking on selling this sorely on this being Snyder's vision realized and that's it. Why is this worth watching? Give us more of a taste at how different this will feel with actual dialogue and scenes instead of setting it to an overused and overrated song that was used in Watchmen already.

There's only so much that can fit in a trailer. The most effective way of selling ZSJL is basically shining a light on how pathetic the Whedon cut is. But Hollywood politics is Hollywood politics so don't expect anybody (least of all the marketing department) to basically say "The other version of the movie sucks, here's the real deal!"

As things stand, I think every frame of the Hallelujah trailer contains "original" footage. Stuff that wasn't seen in Whedon's hackjob film.

For better or worse, the marketing is pretending as tho the Whedon cut doesn't exist. So, you are correct in saying there's no specific mention of "the original vision restored" or something. Still, this is the most successful Internet pressure campaign in history so perhaps the thinking goes that the movie can do its own talking.

[The Dark Knight]

To an audience that's not following this whole Release The Snyder Cut business, they probably don't quite know the details as to why this is even a thing. For them, a Director's Cut is just a longer version of what they've already seen.

I see where you're coming from, and I've found this point to be true. When one knows how much was deleted and altered, there's no question about just how different the two products are. It's night and day. Does the general public have that level of understanding, though? I say they don't. They really think the part of your post I quoted.

To which I would simply tell them WhedonLeague is 2 hours long, and SnyderLeague is 4 hours long. That really does communicate a lot, if plot point discussions the hardcore fans know about go way over their head. Would the general public be able to remember what is different and what isn't anyway?

Even if it simply was a matter of extending what already existed I'd  wager the film would automatically be better in terms of development. I apply this logic to the greatest trilogy of all time, The Lord of the Rings. But SnyderLeague really is a whole other beast.

[Kamdan]

I think I'm more honestly interested in a documentary that details this whole business, but that's not gonna happen for another couple of decades where everyone can give their honest word on the matters at hand instead of the "we're trying to sell something" method.

[The Dark Knight]

Snyder said 80 per cent of ZSJL is unseen footage. That's insane.

In a positive development, McFarlane Toys will be producing figures based on the movie:
https://cosmicbook.news/snyder-cut-justice-league-action-figures-mcfarlane-toys

This suggests ZSJL isn't just a movie release and other gear could hopefully be in the pipeline, such as a complete soundtrack.

No idea if this legit. It's being posted in hope more than anything. A possible home video release this year?
https://forum.blu-ray.com/showthread.php?t=335804

Sure hope we get some news about the release schedule soon. I'd love to see this in theatres first up if possible.

[The Laughing Fish]

Harry Lennix on Twitter:

Finally putting the rumors to rest. #SnyderCut #MartianManhunter #JusticeLeague

https://www.twitter.com/HarryJLennix/status/1349449680107626497

[thecolorsblend]

Harry Lennix on Twitter:

Finally putting the rumors to rest. #SnyderCut #MartianManhunter #JusticeLeague

https://www.twitter.com/HarryJLennix/status/1349449680107626497

Ages ago, David Goyer did a Q&A where, among other things, he made fun of people for even knowing who Martian Manhunter is.

I've wondered a few times if Snyder inserting Martian Manhunter into JL wasn't throwing a bit of shade Goyer's way.

[The Laughing Fish]

Now we know that Swanwick is Martian Manhunter, it adds a whole new perspective to Zod's speech once he arrived on Earth in MOS.

"He would have made efforts to blend in. He will look like you. But he is not one of you."

Ages ago, David Goyer did a Q&A where, among other things, he made fun of people for even knowing who Martian Manhunter is.

I've wondered a few times if Snyder inserting Martian Manhunter into JL wasn't throwing a bit of shade Goyer's way.

Love or hate Snyder, you can't deny he embraces comic book iconography without apology. I remember he once called a radio station to argue that Aquaman is a badass after the host mocked the character.

If you ask some Arrowverse fanboys, they reckon Snyder ripped off Supergirl, because it had Martian Manhunter disguised as a government agency official taking Hank Henshaw's name. But I reckon it's very likely Geoff Johns knew Snyder was going to reveal Swanwick as Martian Manhunter in JL, and probably got the Supergirl showrunners to beat him to the punch.

Don't forget, Snyder was hired to direct JL in 2014, and J'Onn J'Onzz debuted in the Arrowverse in late 2015. When Johns became DC Films chief following BvS, Swanwick/MM became one out of many plotlines removed in favour of Josstice League. Cyborg and Deathstroke were other characters who got short-changed and then new versions of those characters would appear in Doom Patrol and Titans, which Johns serves as executive producer. You can see a pattern here.

Meanwhile, Snyder has confirmed that ZSJL will debut as a full-length feature film. The mini-series format has been disbanded, and the film's running time is four hours long.



The official Twitter page has finally confirmed the film is definitely called "Zack Snyder's Justice League", ending doubts about whether or not Snyder would get the title he wanted.

https://twitter.com/snydercut

We're still waiting for an official release date, but Ray Fisher said on Instagram that he suspects it's only a month and a half away. We'll see. There have been some concerns that WB moving Godzilla vs Kong to a March 26th release date is an attempt to compete with ZSJL.

[The Laughing Fish]

Here is a great ad for those who are complaining about the four hour running time.

In the meantime, a fan charity organiser who is connected to Snyder claims the format changed from its original mini-series concept because Toby Emmerich and Walter Hamada are trying to mitigate ZSJL's potential success to avoid any possibilities of doing a sequel. A weekly series was believed to have a better shot at achieving that.

Keep in mind that even if ZSJL does well, don't expect any development for a potential follow-up will happen right away. Snyder has a deal with Netflix and he is expected to work on spin-offs for Army of the Dead, his other film that's coming out this year, as well as producing a Norse mythology anime series with Jay Oliva. To be honest, I would not be surprised if Snyder wants nothing to do with WB anymore after this. I wouldn't blame him either because they've treated him like sh*t

Nonetheless, if the original mini-series plan was abandoned because Emmerich doesn't want the the film to succeed then that's quite typical of him. This is the same man who lied about how Josstice League would stay true to Snyder's vision, and I've no doubt he would've kept ZSJL locked in a vault if AT&T didn't force his hand. Now it's coming out, his pride must be hurting. What a rotten individual. I've never heard of a studio executive wanting to sabotage the success of his own product because of his twisted sense of pride.

The only hope for the Snyderverse continues in some form is the fans drive the viewing numbers home and AT&T continues to take notice.

In the meantime, here are some brand new T-shirts of Darkseid available on DC Shop in North America.

[The Dark Knight]

Ages ago, David Goyer did a Q&A where, among other things, he made fun of people for even knowing who Martian Manhunter is.

I've wondered a few times if Snyder inserting Martian Manhunter into JL wasn't throwing a bit of shade Goyer's way.

The Swanwick/Martian Manhunter detail always stuck with me because of the context changing nature of the revelation, and how it expands the scope of the universe. I daresay it's a perfect usage of a cameo, and I'm glad they managed to include it in the final cut. It wouldn't be ZSJL otherwise.

I like that ZSJL is an older unseen film because it's a perfectly preserved time capsule. It makes me nostalgic about that period of time, reflecting upon where I was then, and where I am now. By default, any film takes on a life all of its own years after it has been released, and that's when I enjoy something the most. The actors have long moved on with their lives, but the performances still exist. There's a level of detachment that I find appealing, much like obsessing over the Burton and Schumacher films. Really can't wait now.

[The Laughing Fish]

I saw the official AT&T Twitter account engaging with Snyder cut fans a few days ago. You gotta love them throwing shade at Josstice League.

https://twitter.com/ATT/status/1352014272365260809