Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

Started by The Laughing Fish, Fri, 7 Feb 2020, 10:52

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Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Thu, 17 Dec  2020, 23:35
Gal Gadot revealed she was interviewed in the investigation over the misconduct allegations on JL.

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I know that they've done a very thorough investigation, even just by how much time I spent with them.

I wasn't there with the guys when they shot with Joss Whedon — I had my own experience with [him], which wasn't the best one, but I took care of it there and when it happened. I took it to the higher-ups and they took care of it. But I'm happy for Ray to go up and say his truth.

https://www.latimes.com/entertainment-arts/movies/story/2020-12-17/gal-gadot-wonder-woman-1984

https://variety.com/2020/film/news/gal-gadot-warner-media-justice-league-1234865424/

I heard that Whedon had another project scrapped after standing down from his HBO Max show, and Fisher landed a new role for an upcoming drama mini-series.  Sounds like Karma is slowly at work.
Happy to hear this hasn't affected Ray's career.

During the New Year festivities, Zack Snyder shared two new images of Wonder Woman from his cut on social media. The second image shows her facing off Steppenwolf.



https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1344703559720267776



https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1344734167423090688

Gal Gadot is looking elegant as always.

Meanwhile, DCEU fans have been tweeting the hashtag #RestoreTheSnyderVerse into the New Year, which appeared to have reached over 210k tweets.



This was covered in the media, along with talk about Ray Fisher's condemnation of key DC Films figure Walter Hamada for his part in interfering with the investigation over behind the scenes of Josstice League.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2560817/zack-snyder-fans-fight-to-restore-his-universe-but-is-ray-fishers-cyborg-movie-off-the-table

As I said before, if there is a chance for the original DCEU to resume, the fans must support the hell out of ZSJL. Whether it's HBO Max in available countries or other streaming services showing it, or even purchasing a digital copy on Google Play which was added as a "coming soon" feature the other day, there's no room for complacency now.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

I forgot to mention both Ray Fisher and Ray Porter tweeted the #RestoreTheSnyderVerse hashtags too.

https://twitter.com/ray8fisher/status/1344758816425070594

https://twitter.com/Ray__Porter/status/1344696707276099592

From what I've heard, we will be getting one more trailer soon.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat,  2 Jan  2021, 02:22
From what I've heard, we will be getting one more trailer soon.
Do we rly need one tho? Whatever, if we get it, we get it. Fine. But I'm good rn.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat,  2 Jan  2021, 03:04
Do we rly need one tho? Whatever, if we get it, we get it. Fine. But I'm good rn.
It is annoying how that the Hallelujah trailer is just patting itself on the back saying that it's good enough that it's Snyders own cut of the movie. Gives me absolutely no sense of how things will play out differently from the theatrical cut.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat,  2 Jan  2021, 03:04
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat,  2 Jan  2021, 02:22
From what I've heard, we will be getting one more trailer soon.
Do we rly need one tho? Whatever, if we get it, we get it. Fine. But I'm good rn.

I hear you, but I heard that the marketing for ZSJL is about to kick-off. The latest Hallelujah trailer was more of a love letter for all the fans who petitioned hard for this cut for years, and since it's the first "original feature" for HBO Max, more footage will be advertised constantly in the lead-up to its release.

In the meantime, Jared Leto has some rather interesting things to say.

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I may or may not be in [it]. I've heard the rumors, too, but we'll have to let Zack confirm or deny that one. I may or may not have shot something with Zack, but I love him. He is just a maverick and an incredible filmmaker. We get along great, have great chemistry, and I look forward to working with him again in the future. We have lots up our sleeves, Zack and I.

https://www.syfy.com/syfywire/jared-leto-morbius-jekyll-and-hyde-tease

Quote from: Kamdan on Sat,  2 Jan  2021, 03:24
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat,  2 Jan  2021, 03:04
Do we rly need one tho? Whatever, if we get it, we get it. Fine. But I'm good rn.
It is annoying how that the Hallelujah trailer is just patting itself on the back saying that it's good enough that it's Snyders own cut of the movie. Gives me absolutely no sense of how things will play out differently from the theatrical cut.

What? That trailer showed many scenes that were never shown in Josstice League, e.g. exploring the Knightmare world and glimpses of Cyborg's arc. If that isn't enough of an indicator to show how different the Snyder cut is compared to the Whedon cut then I don't know what to tell you.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

QuoteWhat? That trailer showed many scenes that were never shown in Josstice League, e.g. exploring the Knightmare world and glimpses of Cyborg's arc. If that isn't enough of an indicator to show how different the Snyder cut is compared to the Whedon cut then I don't know what to tell you.
Right, but that's all superficially. Just feels like an extended version of the theatrical. The song choice taken from Watchmen doesn't convey what we're going to see other than Snyder just gloating that his cut is being finished, which is all we get from him through his Twitter.

QuoteWhat? That trailer showed many scenes that were never shown in Josstice League, e.g. exploring the Knightmare world and glimpses of Cyborg's arc. If that isn't enough of an indicator to show how different the Snyder cut is compared to the Whedon cut then I don't know what to tell you.
Right, but that's all superficial. Just feels like an extended version of the theatrical. The song choice taken from Watchmen doesn't convey what we're going to see other than Snyder just gloating that his cut is being finished, which is all we get from him through his Twitter.

Quote from: Kamdan on Sat,  2 Jan  2021, 04:19
Right, but that's all superficial. Just feels like an extended version of the theatrical.

I wouldn't call the appearance of Darkseid, Silas Stone's fate, the restoration of Steppenwolf's original design and so on, as "superficial". Those examples alone show there is a significant difference to what Whedon showed us, so I don't understand how you could say it feels like an extensive version of the theatrical cut. To me, that's like saying the Donner cut feels like the extended version of Lester's Superman II. They may follow the same plot, more or less, but the structure and how it happens is rather different.

The point of the trailer was to showcase footage that was never seen before to the wider public, as well as a celebration for the fans who have been following the development of the Snyder cut for years. Many fans recognise some of these scenes because Snyder uploaded the stills on his Vero account over the last few years. Does it seem niche? Sure. But even so, the trailer certainly gives you more than an idea that we'll be seeing a very different film from what we saw in 2017.

Quote from: Kamdan on Sat,  2 Jan  2021, 04:19
The song choice taken from Watchmen doesn't convey what we're going to see other than Snyder just gloating that his cut is being finished, which is all we get from him through his Twitter.

Actually, the choice of song is much more personal than you think.

https://www.cinemablend.com/news/2553149/why-zack-snyder-uses-hallelujah-again-in-the-new-snyder-cut-trailer

But even if there was no emotional context behind it, I wouldn't blame Snyder for gloating that he is getting to finish his cut. Under the circumstances, he'd have every right, and yet, he's barely even doing that. Besides, if your movie was hacked after you left the production, and you get the chance to finish what you wanted to do thanks to fan demand, how would you promote your work?
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Sun, 3 Jan 2021, 11:38 #259 Last Edit: Sun, 3 Jan 2021, 11:41 by Kamdan
QuoteBesides, if your movie was hacked after you left the production, and you get the chance to finish what you wanted to do thanks to fan demand, how would you promote your work?
I'd let the movie speak for itself once it's released. Snyder's been posting black and white images of his cut but barely touches upon the content of them and this trailer does the same thing. To an audience that's not following this whole Release The Snyder Cut business, they probably don't quite know the details as to why this is even a thing. For them, a Director's Cut is just a longer version of what they've already seen. I hope this is something where we'll notice a significant change in tone without all of that Joss Whedon nonsense. This hopefully has no trace of that. The Donner Cut of Superman II still had Lester's touch on it.

There's been too much banking on selling this sorely on this being Snyder's vision realized and that's it. Why is this worth watching? Give us more of a taste at how different this will feel with actual dialogue and scenes instead of setting it to an overused and overrated song that was used in Watchmen already.