Will the Snyder cut appear on HBO Max?

[The Laughing Fish]

I'm coming back to this. Snyder has said a few times now that he hasn't seen the Whedon cut. I can believe that up to a certain point. But I find it a bit hard to swallow right now. Out of morbid curiosity perhaps crossed with a righteous vindication, I'd be shocked if he hasn't watched the other version.

Richard Donner claims to have never seen the Lester cut of Superman II. But he sure seems to know an awful lot about it, creative decisions that were made which were different from his own, etc.

I have to wonder in cases like this if directors claim to have never seen the alternate version of their films to avoid answering questions and perhaps saying something they'll regret later.

In Donner's case, I don't buy it, full stop. But even with Snyder, I see quite a few reasons to not accept what he says at face value when it comes to having never watched Whedon's hacked up mess.

I do believe it. These people possibly have friends that still work on these productions well after the director has left. Also, in the case of Snyder there are tweets of fans filling him in on what some of the differences were.

As it was already discussed a couple of pages ago, Kevin Smith confirmed he spoke to someone who worked on ZSJL AND the reshoots, and claimed Whedon was badmouthing Snyder's work during that whole time. There's no doubt in my mind that Snyder would've heard about that. Put that together with fans cluing on him about the theatrical cut, which you already said, I believe Snyder has enough info without even seeing Josstice League.

[thecolorsblend]

As it was already discussed a couple of pages ago, Kevin Smith confirmed he spoke to someone who worked on ZSJL AND the reshoots, and claimed Whedon was badmouthing Snyder's work during that whole time. There's no doubt in my mind that Snyder would've heard about that. Put that together with fans cluing on him about the theatrical cut, which you already said, I believe Snyder has enough info without even seeing Josstice League.

The trash talk thing is probably the biggest thing for me. Yeah, Whedon's cut sucks. No doubts there. But if you ask me, the most unprofessional thing somebody can do is come in as a replacement and talk trash about their predecessor. It is literally never acceptable to do that. Never.

Compare all this to how Schumacher handled his business. Now, we don't really know what might've happened behind closed doors. Who's to say what Schumacher might've said or done regarding Burton?

But at least in public, Schumacher's stock answer was to say that he admired Burton's work, he sought and received Burton's blessing to make BF, he didn't know about and wouldn't comment on Burton's departure from the franchise and then he would shift gears and extoll his vision for BF. That's pretty professional behavior. I have no way of knowing if he actually got Burton's blessing for BF or not. I tend to believe that he did but I guess you never know. Still, the last thing Schumacher wanted to do was fuel a Burton vs. Schumacher thing in the media or among the fans. That tells me he probably acted about as gentlemanly as you'd expect behind closed doors. I'm willing to give him the benefit of every possible doubt.

Meanwhile, Whedon trash-talking Snyder and running him down like that is what amateurs do when they think they're winning points. But what they're really doing is pissing people off. It's just a colossal jerk move and, as above, it's not cool to act that way. If you want to come in as a replacement and impress everybody, don't even mention your predecessor and do your absolute best to prove that you deserve to be where you are.

Because, like right now, sometimes what goes around comes around. And what's coming around for Whedon looks pretty unpleasant.

[The Laughing Fish]

Whedon trash-talking Snyder and running him down like that is what amateurs do when they think they're winning points. But what they're really doing is pissing people off. It's just a colossal jerk move and, as above, it's not cool to act that way. If you want to come in as a replacement and impress everybody, don't even mention your predecessor and do your absolute best to prove that you deserve to be where you are.

Because, like right now, sometimes what goes around comes around. And what's coming around for Whedon looks pretty unpleasant.

To add further context in the subject of Whedon's tarnished reputation, Jeff Pruitt is an ex-stunt coordinator who worked on the first four seasons of Buffy the Vampire Slayer, and had this to say:

We had a great relationship, Joss and I, but he changed as the show took off.  He went from the humble writer who used to turn to me for ways to shoot fight scenes into a real egomaniac who believed his own hype. Then again, maybe he was always that way and I was simply too naive to see it as he never showed that side to me before.

There is also the accusation of Whedon trying to pressure another Sarah Michelle Gellar's stunt double to dump Pruitt, who she was dating at the time. That's despicable.

Source: https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/12/egomaniac-joss-whedon-faces-claims-buffy-stunt-double-12942160/?ito=cbshare

The more I hear about Whedon, the more dislike him as a person. I see a behavioural pattern: he uses people when he feels he needs to achieve something, and when he does accomplish it, he pretty much dumps on their dignity. Like Buffy, the success of the Avengers must've gotten to his head.

If Whedon was this unprofessional on the set of Buffy then I can only imagine the misconduct on the set of JL. Put that together with a dysfunctional studio in WB, and you get a recipe for disaster.

[thecolorsblend]

There is also the accusation of Whedon trying to pressure another Sarah Michelle Gellar's stunt double to dump Pruitt, who she was dating at the time. That's despicable.

Source: https://metro.co.uk/2020/07/12/egomaniac-joss-whedon-faces-claims-buffy-stunt-double-12942160/?ito=cbshare

The more I hear about Whedon, the more dislike him as a person. I see a behavioural pattern: he uses people when he feels he needs to achieve something, and when he does accomplish it, he pretty much dumps on their dignity. Like Buffy, the success of the Avengers must've gotten to his head.

If Whedon was this unprofessional on the set of Buffy then I can only imagine the misconduct on the set of JL. Put that together with a dysfunctional studio in WB, and you get a recipe for disaster.

One thing that I've been a bit confused by over the years is Sarah Michelle Gellar. From the day Buffy ended going right on through to right now, she's gone out of her way to make it clear that she's done with Buffy forever.

Why? That was her big break. And to this day, it's probably her most famous role. Why does she want nothing to do with it?

It might be that she thinks she's outgrown the character. But in light of all these reports about Whedon, I'm starting to think the answer could be that she just doesn't want to have anything to do with Whedon again. If so, makes me wonder what her story is.

[Silver Nemesis]

This might sound petty, but if they use the word 'omega' in this film it'd be nice if they could pronounce it correctly. The mispronunciation of omega is a pet peeve of mine and practically everyone gets it wrong nowadays, including most of the previous Darkseid voice actors. Speakers in both the UK and US generally pronounce it as either 'oh-MAY-ga' or 'oh-MEE-ga', both of which are wrong. It should be pronounced oʊmɪɡə/oh-mig-uh or oʊmɛɡə/oh-meg-ah. The Greek vowel epsilon has a long and short form. The short form is ɛ, as in 'egg', and this is the form used in omega: oʊˈmɛɡə.

You might argue 'Well omega is an Apocalyptian word and therefore isn't necessarily pronounced the same as the Greek letter.' But if that's the case, then why do they use the Greek symbol Ω?

It won't be the end of the world if they get it wrong, but like I say it's a pet peeve of mine. Actors used to pronounce it correctly in older films and TV shows. For example, they always said it right in classic Doctor Who, as illustrated in the following clip.

But these days they almost always say it wrong, as illustrated in the following clip from Superman/Batman: Apocalypse.

I have a theory that the pronunciation became conflated with that of 'Amiga' sometime in the eighties. At any rate, if the word is spoken in this film or any other future JL movies I hope they get it right. Someone as smart as Bruce Wayne should know a little about ancient Greek.

[The Dark Knight]

It will look different to MoS and BvS, but the 1.43 aspect ratio is one of the best things about ZSJL because of the message it sends. Zack is giving us absolutely everything with no cropping. Leave nothing on the table.

Reading between the lines of a Grace Randolph tweet, it seems like the film could be released in other formats in the future. That makes sense to me. The studio gets more money, and the fans get what they want. Why not capitalize on something you're already comfortable to release?

Cutting WhedonLeague down to two hours made Superman suffer the most. The central figure given bare bones development was not only frustrating, but it sapped the film of its heart and soul.

As such, the healing of Superman after his resurrection is interesting me most at the moment. Quite a lot of psychologically based content it seems on Kent Farm. That's where the majority of the content would presumably need to be given the general structure of the story, so hopefully Snyder set aside a healthy screentime.

The Steppenwolf battle is also undoubtedly going to be better if the Zod and Doomsday battles are anything to go by.

[thecolorsblend]

This might sound petty, but if they use the word 'omega' in this film it'd be nice if they could pronounce it correctly. The mispronunciation of omega is a pet peeve of mine and practically everyone gets it wrong nowadays, including most of the previous Darkseid voice actors. Speakers in both the UK and US generally pronounce it as either 'oh-MAY-ga' or 'oh-MEE-ga', both of which are wrong. It should be pronounced oʊmɪɡə/oh-mig-uh or oʊmɛɡə/oh-meg-ah. The Greek vowel epsilon has a long and short form. The short form is ɛ, as in 'egg', and this is the form used in omega: oʊˈmɛɡə.

You might argue 'Well omega is an Apocalyptian word and therefore isn't necessarily pronounced the same as the Greek letter.' But if that's the case, then why do they use the Greek symbol Ω?

It won't be the end of the world if they get it wrong, but like I say it's a pet peeve of mine. Actors used to pronounce it correctly in older films and TV shows. For example, they always said it right in classic Doctor Who, as illustrated in the following clip.

But these days they almost always say it wrong, as illustrated in the following clip from Superman/Batman: Apocalypse.

I have a theory that the pronunciation became conflated with that of 'Amiga' sometime in the eighties. At any rate, if the word is spoken in this film or any other future JL movies I hope they get it right. Someone as smart as Bruce Wayne should know a little about ancient Greek.

Yeah, I really don't understand what they're all about. Always seemed pretty simple. Oh-mega. Not meega or mayga or whatever. Always seemed dumb when people changed the pronunciation.

It will look different to MoS and BvS, but the 1.43 aspect ratio is one of the best things about ZSJL because of the message it sends. Zack is giving us absolutely everything with no cropping. Leave nothing on the table.

That's the aspect ratio? 1.43? Never heard of that one before. And I'm not sure I'm into that either. We'll see tho.

[Travesty]

1:43 is IMAX ratio.

[thecolorsblend]

1:43 is IMAX ratio.

Okay. Weird. Thought IMAX was 1.66. Oh well, learn something new every day.

[The Dark Knight]

Yeah, I think it will look fine. Knowing we're getting the whole picture is what sells it to me. And it will look consistent throughout the film, rather than ratio shifts ala TDK.

I'm seeing word that an Affleck show isn't happening. I'm inclined to believe that, but DC Fandome will put a lot of things to the test. I have that date circled on my calendar with a big red marker.