Zack Snyder proves his cut exists - it's 3 AND A HALF HOURS LONG!

Started by The Laughing Fish, Thu, 5 Dec 2019, 01:25

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Snyder has once again for the umpteenth time uploaded a picture on Vero. A day after Henry Cavill played dumb over its existence in an interview.



That's right. The running time is 214 minutes. It's insane.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

A day before Snyder decided he had enough and showed further proof that the cut exists, a fan called Leonardo Oliveira went to a Q&A session hosted by cinematographer Fabian Wagner, who worked on JL. Oliveira asked him about the poor quality of the special effects in the theatrical cut, and filmed the answers on video and uploaded it on Twitter.

The most screwed up thing that Wagner said was he claimed the theatrical cut used ONLY TEN PERCENT of Snyder's footage, and the reshoots lasted 55 days - seven months after principal photography had finished.

Source: https://twitter.com/Leo_Rafael99/status/1202021154917158912

It goes to show once again how badly this movie got butchered, and it really puts things into further perspective over what Snyder said days earlier to a fan in this screenshot below (which I can say anybody with a functioning brain knows by now):



I've said a lot of scathing things about Warner Butchers for their disgusting misconduct. I've run out of things to describe my distaste without going into R-rated territory. The longer this goes on, the more those bastards are only digging their own graves even further. They should just release the damn movie, make the cast, crew and fans happy, and put an end to this mess once and for all. Besides, it would be a big financial win for them as the demand is growing day by day.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Thu,  5 Dec  2019, 11:36The most screwed up thing that Wagner said was he claimed the theatrical cut used ONLY TEN PERCENT of Snyder's footage
I've heard similar figures from other sources. Apparently, it's only that much because of Cavill. They didn't want to Photoshop every scene of his because of the mustache. So they kept some of his scenes intact. Apparently, Whedon would've reshot closer to 95% or maybe even the whole shebang if WB thought there was enough time for it.

If it only used 10% of Snyder's footage then would the directors guild have allowed his name on it??

Quote from: Paul (ral) on Thu,  5 Dec  2019, 22:29
If it only used 10% of Snyder's footage then would the directors guild have allowed his name on it??

I'm afraid to say it, but when it comes to JL, the Directors Guild have failed to protect the creators' rights.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

The modern DGA has some pretty bizarre rules, standards and practices. There are quite a stories out there where people shine a light on just how bizarre the DGA is these days.

Snyder put Forbes blogger Scott Mendelson in his place for suggesting it's an assembly cut.



https://twitter.com/ZackSnyder/status/1202649210954244096

Just as well. If it was an assembly cut, I don't think the canisters would've had the words "DIRECTOR'S CUT" printed on them.

Meanwhile, the Snyder cut movement joining forces with Subway for a charity campaign on social media, predicated on Ben Affleck's endorsement for the Feeding America foundation. It was a stunning success, and now more sandwich outlets are endorsing the campaign. Check out the article below for more details.

Bravo to everyone involved.

https://screenrant.com/justice-league-snyder-cut-support-fast-food-twitter

Snyder expressed his appreciation for Affleck, Subway and the fan movement for the initiative, which Subway replied in kind.

Quote from: Subway
Quote from: Zack Snyder
Thank you for your generous support helping feed hungry families across the country.
@SUBWAY

@BenAffleck
There's nothing more important than helping those in need! But the #ReleaseTheSnyderCut movement might be a close second.

https://twitter.com/SUBWAY/status/1203087021612265474
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

In related news, JL screenwriter Chris Terrio promises that he'll be able to speak about the Snyder cut "in a couple of months".

https://www.google.com/amp/s/www.newsweek.com/justice-league-screenwriter-hint-snyder-cut-release-date-announcement-1475955%3famp=1
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Thu,  5 Dec  2019, 11:36
The most screwed up thing that Wagner said was he claimed the theatrical cut used ONLY TEN PERCENT of Snyder's footage, and the reshoots lasted 55 days - seven months after principal photography had finished.

Not sure if I stated this before, but I would accept whatever cut of JL, approved of by the man himself, Zack Snyder, and even without finished special effects. Sure, it would be nice to get the entire proper film with everything finished, but when you read something like only 10 percent of what we've seen is of Snyder's actual footage, as the saying goes; beggars can't be choosers.

We got used to Snyder's cinematic style of storytelling with MOS, and BvS, and received something far more sanitized with JL. That's pretty clear.

"Imagination is a quality given a man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humour was provided to console him for what he is."

Quote from: The Joker on Mon,  9 Dec  2019, 03:18
Not sure if I stated this before, but I would accept whatever cut of JL, approved of by the man himself, Zack Snyder, and even without finished special effects. Sure, it would be nice to get the entire proper film with everything finished, but when you read something like only 10 percent of what we've seen is of Snyder's actual footage, as the saying goes; beggars can't be choosers.

We got used to Snyder's cinematic style of storytelling with MOS, and BvS, and received something far more sanitized with JL. That's pretty clear.

Snyder has gone on record to say the cut is "done", and it's up to WB to release it. Sure, we can debate how FAR exactly did he get to finish the VFX. But if the film wasn't in good enough shape for public access, I doubt he'd be encouraging people to fight for its release. But from what we've been hearing, it sounds like the cut is closer to completion than many would think.

For what it's worth, Forbes writer Mark Hughes claims there were multiple completed cuts of JL:

Quote from: Mark Hughes
It's not [an assembly cut]. This cut is from months after assembly cut was screened in early 2017. After that screening, work continued for a few more months & a couple of more completed cuts were created, including 3 hr 30+ minute version, which also had work done over the past couple of years.

Source: https://twitter.com/markhughesfilms/status/1202640026925850624

That all being said, I agree with you Joker. At this point, I don't care if the film was even 75% complete like the Donner cut was, or less. I just want it to get released. I'm fully aware it won't magically restore the original DCEU plans back in development, but WB owes it everybody who worked on the film and the fans. At the very least. Josstice League was the last DC film I paid to see, and the next and only time I'll ever pay for a WB/DC film again will be the Snyder cut. Unless a miracle happens, I'm not changing my stance any time soon.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei