The supposed subliminal messages in the Burton films

Started by The Laughing Fish, Wed, 18 Sep 2019, 12:00

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I found this crazy conspiracy theory website that compiles a list of hidden messages within movies, and had a look at Burton's Batman.

https://hollywoodsubliminals.wordpress.com/franchise/batman/batman/
https://hollywoodsubliminals.wordpress.com/franchise/batman/batman-returns/

The only valid references are perhaps those Obelisk-looking sculptures in Vicki's apartment and the Eye of Horus that Max Shreck wears at the party - although I'm pretty sure he's really wearing the Eye of Providence (is there even a difference between the two?). But the rest? Reaching really hard.

Looking up the definition of the Eye of Providence, it's an icon of God's looking over humanity, which is supposed to be referencing to divine providence - God maintaining life and the universe. I perceive the symbol's appearance in the movie to be nothing more than something that an egotist like Shreck would typically wear, rather than some insidious trick to brainwash the masses. But if you think this is extreme, that's nothing compared to the site's analysis of how the Eye of Horus is supposedly hidden in the Burton movie posters:

https://hollywoodsubliminals.wordpress.com/franchise/batman/batman/poster/
https://hollywoodsubliminals.wordpress.com/franchise/batman/batman-returns/poster/

Good grief. Now, I don't doubt subliminal messages do exist in some form, and the media and government can, and does, brainwash people. But this is taking the piss.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

The good news is that the admin of that site has a pretty good eye for graphic design. His analysis of film posters is a little remarkable.

The bad news is that his inability to recognize the difference between quality graphic design and hidden symbols is so abysmal that his inability to understand that at least 90% of the "problems" he sees in posters (totemic arrangements, triangular layouts, etc) are actually "evidence" of good design theory rather than a deep, dark conspiracy.

Don't get me wrong, I love conspiracy theories. I even unironically subscribe to a few. But most of that guy's work on that website is simply nonsense.