Emailing WarnerMedia about the Snyder cut

Started by The Laughing Fish, Mon, 10 Jun 2019, 04:25

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During the week, many fans went on Twitter to congratulate and welcome new Warner CEO Ann Sarnoff, and politely asked for her contribution to help the Snyder cut to see the light of day.

https://www.washingtonpost.com/arts-entertainment/2019/06/26/more-than-year-later-justice-league-fans-are-ramping-up-demands-releasethesnydercut/

What I hate about this article, however, is it still casts doubt if the cut exists at all. Yahoo! News did a much better job at objectively reporting the status of the movie with these two articles.

https://uk.movies.yahoo.com/heres-what-the-real-justice-league-snyder-cut-would-feature-124109882.html
https://news.yahoo.com/zack-snyders-final-cut-of-justice-league-could-still-happen-115821141.html

Meanwhile, fans attending this year's Comic Con are donating to have a billboard set up to raise awareness about the cut. This is a demo apparently.



And here's a mock-up parody of the Comic Con logo.

QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

I don't think I like that billboard mockup very much. It's too busy with too much text conveying too many ideas. "Changed"? By whom? "Absence"? Where did he go? The running time thing is also kind of distracting.

The billboard needs to convey only that the fans want the Snyder cut to be released. Anything besides that single message is trivial at best and a distraction at worst.

This is activism, not advertising. The purpose of the billboard should call viewers to action rather than seek to inform. It isn't a horrible billboard but it doesn't take much imagination to see room for significant improvement.

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sat, 29 Jun  2019, 08:32
I don't think I like that billboard mockup very much. It's too busy with too much text conveying too many ideas. "Changed"? By whom? "Absence"? Where did he go? The running time thing is also kind of distracting.

The billboard needs to convey only that the fans want the Snyder cut to be released. Anything besides that single message is trivial at best and a distraction at worst.

This is activism, not advertising. The purpose of the billboard should call viewers to action rather than seek to inform. It isn't a horrible billboard but it doesn't take much imagination to see room for significant improvement.

I agree, let's hope the final design promotes the message much better than that mockup.

Last Friday, the official #ReleaseTheSnyderCut Twitter page set a time to get everyone to tweet at Warner its parent company AT&T with the hashtag, and it gained more than 40,000 tweets on the site - one of the most popular user activities on that day. This was apparently in response when the hashtag was mysteriously disabled on Twitter earlier during the week, incidentally on the same day a new photo of Darkseid was released.

Meanwhile, the Snyder cut website unleashed this very simple online survey: https://surveyhero.com/c/JusticeLeagueReleaseTheSnyderCut
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

The #ReleaseTheSnyderCut Twitter page has announced plans to organise a letter writing campaign to the new Warner CEO.

https://www.twitter.com/RTSnyderCut/status/1149862945968537601

I read the history behind the SII Donner cut movement, and that community wrote letters to Warner too. Some people might draw some comparisons between the behind the scenes in SII and JL. But I reckon what happened to the latter is far worse. Say what you want about SII and the Donner cut, but at least the Salkinds asked Donner if he still wanted to claim some credit for directing the movie, and allowed him to watch the theatrical cut so he could make his decision. Unlike Warner.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

I dunno, I just don't see any of this SnyderCut stuff to pan out anytime soon. I feel it's a waste of time, right now. The movie is still relatively new, so the odds of them coming out with the Snyder Cut is so slim. If one every comes out(and that's a big IF), it wont be for another 15-20 years.

I'm not going to throw shade at people who do continue with the movement, but I just don't see it being a likely thing.

Quote from: Travesty on Mon, 15 Jul  2019, 14:25
I dunno, I just don't see any of this SnyderCut stuff to pan out anytime soon. I feel it's a waste of time, right now. The movie is still relatively new, so the odds of them coming out with the Snyder Cut is so slim. If one every comes out(and that's a big IF), it wont be for another 15-20 years.

I'm not going to throw shade at people who do continue with the movement, but I just don't see it being a likely thing.

Well put it this way, you can only make yourself heard by fighting for what you believe in. If people don't show there is a demand for the cut, Warner won't know.

But, if Warner Butchers think they can keep it locked up and assume people like me are just going to keep paying for whatever crap they put out in theatres, I'll once again happily tell them to get f***ed. Because there's no way I'll be giving any more money to those thieves ever again.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: Travesty on Mon, 15 Jul  2019, 14:25
I dunno, I just don't see any of this SnyderCut stuff to pan out anytime soon. I feel it's a waste of time, right now. The movie is still relatively new, so the odds of them coming out with the Snyder Cut is so slim. If one every comes out(and that's a big IF), it wont be for another 15-20 years.

I'm not going to throw shade at people who do continue with the movement, but I just don't see it being a likely thing.
Historically, it has taken longer for alternative cuts of other movies like Alien 3, Superman II, Brazil, Blade Runner, Star Trek V and so forth to get released. And the reasons for that vary. There were legal challenges to be resolved in some cases. In other cases, home video was such a new concept that movie studios saw nothing but risk in releasing alternative cuts of films.

None (or very few, I imagine) of those circumstances apply to Justice League. It makes sense for fans to flex on WB especially right now so that the bean counters can weigh the cost vs. the benefit(s) of completing and releasing the Snyder cut. Fans organizing in order to show the level of demand which exists for the Snyder cut (which even I'm surprised by, tbh) is the best way of impressing upon WB the guarantee of some type of ROI with Justice League.

Money is not the most important thing in Hollywood. Ego is. So the real obstacle to overcome may be waiting for the right person to get fired so that the Snyder cut can be released whether that person's ego gets ruffled or not. But right now, Justice League is probably still in the red. Releasing the Snyder cut could go a long way to putting the movie into the black.

These shows of strength (and demand) from the fans is not a bad thing.

Obviously, it's probably too late to resuscitate the DCEU. But positioning the Snyder cut as a type of conclusion could go a long way toward pacifying fans and prepping them for whatever DC-related stuff WB releases next.

No, I don't think they'll come out with one right now, because the DCEU is still a thing. They're still making movies within that universe, and they don't want to muddy the waters to an already rocky cinematic universe. It makes them look weak with no overall plan. Sure, some of the hardcore people who follow these movies may know some of the inside dope and troubles of what's going on, but releasing a completely different version of JL(which is still relatively new), while their DCEU is still a thing, doesn't make any sense. The only way I see it making any kind of sense for WB and the DCEU, is to wait for the DCEU to officially end, which could take 10-15 years depending.


Quote from: Travesty on Mon, 15 Jul  2019, 21:59
No, I don't think they'll come out with one right now, because the DCEU is still a thing. They're still making movies within that universe, and they don't want to muddy the waters to an already rocky cinematic universe.

They brought this nonsense upon themselves with their shenanigans and deception. If they wanted to abandon Zack Snyder's planned story arc then there were better to let him go than the despicable PR debacle they created.

Let's face it, the DCEU now is a complete mess. Right now, they're just hanging on to Wonder Woman and Aquaman as the only remaining JL characters with ongoing movies, while the rest of the team is discarded. Unless you count awkward cameo appearances played by headless body doubles i.e. Shazam. Any semblance of a cinematic universe is long gone. If you ask me, the DCEU exists in name only.

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It makes them look weak with no overall plan.

That disgusting, pathetic disgrace of a movie studio already proved itself to be weak and clueless awhile ago. The longer this goes on, the worse it reflects badly on them. Besides, if the rumours of that Birds of Prey movie are true then it goes to show they REALLY have no idea what they're doing.

Meanwhile, the Snyder cut community unleashed the final billboard and bus stop advertising around San Diego in preparation for Comic Con. This is now live.







https://mobile.twitter.com/willrowactor/status/1150837995592978443
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

I think it's worth mentioning regardless whether one thinks this advertising stunt is frivolous or not, the people in this online community should be cut some slack, because they've donated thousands of dollars to charity in promoting suicide prevention. You have to give them credit for at least promoting for a good cause, in addition to demanding the movie as advertised. They've got my respect.

https://screenrant.com/justice-league-snyder-cut-fans-suicide-prevention-praise/
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei