30th Anniversary 4K Ultra HD Blu-Ray

Started by DarkVengeance, Tue, 8 Jan 2019, 02:25

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Looks like Warners caught on to the iTunes version of Batman '89 having the original audio and changed it to the new remixed version.


Paul thanks again for giving me contributor credit on the article. Let's all sign this petition, and email WB and let them know we won't take this decision laying down.


I have given a name to my pain, and it is BATMAN.

Quote from: Kamdan on Mon, 10 Jun  2019, 02:24
Looks like Warners caught on to the iTunes version of Batman '89 having the original audio and changed it to the new remixed version.

Mine is still playing with the original audio.

Quote from: Max Eckhardt on Tue, 11 Jun  2019, 07:27
Mine is still playing with the original audio.
Did you download your copy of it? I just streamed mine and it first started to play with no English track at all and eventually ended up with the remixes audio.

Quote from: Kamdan on Tue, 11 Jun  2019, 08:29
Quote from: Max Eckhardt on Tue, 11 Jun  2019, 07:27
Mine is still playing with the original audio.
Did you download your copy of it? I just streamed mine and it first started to play with no English track at all and eventually ended up with the remixes audio.

I just streamed it on my apple tv.

To those that were supporting our cause and petition, I wanted to give you an update:

I just received a phone call from a very nice woman named Sherrie from Warner Bros in regards to my emails for a replacement disc to attempt to obtain the new Batman 89 4K disc with the original audio mix (with the original sound effects) included.

She said and I quote "sometimes emails can be crass so I decided to call you". She went on to explain that from what she's been told from the higher ups (which isn't much apparently), is that this is currently the product they are offering. She said "from what I'm being told, this is the product that is being released, so I don't have anything to send you as a replacement" and that she appreciated my passion as a fan.

I explained in detail why the original audio is so important to us as fans and why we should at least have it as an option. I advised that including it in the upcoming boxset would be an acceptable option in which she replied "I'll pass that along". I'm very happy that she took the time to call me and at least respond but it sounds like the new sound mix is what we're stuck with. At least we tried.


I have given a name to my pain, and it is BATMAN.

This is a tough subject here, and I don't want to sound spoiled after Warner went through the trouble of bringing us a new 4K transfer, adding a bunch of other restoration efforts, and promoted the heck out of it, with theatrical showings to boot.

The sound mix is a big deal, but for me, the color timing is way more noticeable. Sound is subjective, but the side-by-side picture comparisons really show how they heavily altered the original, natural coloring of the film. It can get a little distracting when everything is too blue shifted. It's a shame considering how good the actual picture quality is.

Meanwhile on the sound, I think it was well done, but the absence of the original is the big issue. Star Wars has always been the example for changing films on re-releases, and I think there would be no argument so long as the original was available as an alternative. I suppose this didn't come out of nowhere because Danny Elfman saw the lacking sound design as an error that needed fixing, but at what point do you draw the line?

You'll get NO complaints if you simply work on trying to recreate that 1989 theater experience for home audiences (we're SO close), but adding changes is seen as having the potential to rope in new audiences. Like I said, this can be done without making compromises.

Quote from: Slash Man on Tue,  9 Jul  2019, 07:11
This is a tough subject here, and I don't want to sound spoiled after Warner went through the trouble of bringing us a new 4K transfer, adding a bunch of other restoration efforts, and promoted the heck out of it, with theatrical showings to boot.

I think Warner is a garbage company that deserves to face criticism for putting out defective products and having a track record for deception, so don't be afraid to criticise them when they screw up.

Just going back to your previous post about that social media poster...

Quote from: Slash Man on Wed, 29 May  2019, 04:55


I know you said you like it, and I admit, I do like the glowing effect around the Bat emblem. But the picture of Batman the designer used is crap. They took a screenshot of him ready to attach the Speargun onto his utility belt from the alley scene, as Furstmobile already pointed out on page 3 of this thread, but they retouched it really badly in Photoshop. Look at how his cape appears wrapped and folded over his right shoulder and how it's draped down the right side of his body at the same time. Really amateurish stuff. And this is the mockup they used for the Blu-Ray cover too. It looks so unprofessional.

There were plenty of promotional photos of Keaton's Batman from 1989 they could've used. Instead, they decided to take a screenshot of him and chop his body around to make an already awkward pose even worse. Thankfully, the other social media posters I saw for BR, BF and B&R that used the same glowing template looked much better.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Well I can't unsee that one now. I thought that art was the lesser of the two evils, but I don't know anymore. I can think of multiple ways they could have done that edit better.

Looking for some positive changes, was the scene where Joker shoots Bob changed? That one stood out in the original because the sound effect was delayed by what seemed like a full second.