The DCEU Is Dead So Isn't It Time For A New Direction?

Started by thecolorsblend, Mon, 24 Sep 2018, 03:26

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I'm not sharing a link that gives that clickbait trash ComicBook.com any traffic, but I saw this quote by Jeffrey Dean Morgan saying he'd still be keen for a Flashpoint movie.



If Warner Butchers had any sense, they would've allowed the original plans for the DCEU to come to fruition i.e. the JL five part story arc, the Affleck solo etc, and then use the Flashpoint movie starring Morgan as Batman to reboot the whole franchise. But oh no no no no no, they had to ruin everything with their greed, impatience and boardroom politics.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

While tweeting about Zack Snyder's recent BvS commentary last week, video game legend Ed Boon mentioned that Injustice would make a great film.

I wouldn't mind seeing an Injustice adaptation on the big screen, but let's get real. After all the fuss and over-exaggeration surrounding MOS and BvS, there's NO way Warner Butchers would invest any money into an adaptation that has Superman - parallel universe or not - killing the Joker, Lex, or even heroes such as Green Arrow and Shazam.

And that's not even taking into account how Superman becomes a tyrannical dictator. BvS's Knightmare scene was influenced by some aspects of Injustice: Gods Among Us with an evil Superman and stormtrooper army and that was met with hysteria, to the point that all explorations of that subplot was cut during the JL reshoots. So what hope is there that the video game could ever be adapted onto the big screen? Maybe if you "Marvelise" it with lousy comedy, but such a concept still requires an enormous budget to execute satisfactorily. Again, forget it. Big budgets is something those cheapskates at Warner Butchers aren't willing to do nowadays.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

I feel like Snyder was already influenced pretty heavily on Injustice. It seemed like Injustice and TDKR were his biggest influences.

I agree. Speaking of TDKR, Snyder said in his recent commentary that he reckons making a live action adaptation is still doable and BvS doesn't negate the possibility.

But under the current circumstances with this studio? Forget it. Besides, the two-part animated feature is as good as it gets.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Should've posted this sooner. Didn't know where else to post this here anyway. But yeah, looks like Razorfist has joined the chorus of those predicting the end of the superhero fad.

I'm not trying to fan my own balls here. But I've been saying this same thing for a few years now. First is uncertainty with an unfamiliar genre, second comes the golden years, third comes the deconstruction and fourth comes the outright and undeniable decline. Obviously, there's overlap between those different phase. But that's basically what we're seeing in superhero cinema these days.

Anyway, he's Razorfist. Godf***ingspeed!


Quote from: thecolorsblend on Fri, 10 Sep  2021, 15:15
I'm not trying to fan my own balls here. But I've been saying this same thing for a few years now. First is uncertainty with an unfamiliar genre, second comes the golden years, third comes the deconstruction and fourth comes the outright and undeniable decline. Obviously, there's overlap between those different phase. But that's basically what we're seeing in superhero cinema these days.

I'll see it when I believe it. But at the moment, Disney has thirty one MCU projects in development.

https://geekositymag.com/disney-has-31-mcu-projects-in-development/

Disregarding the Marvel Comics lawsuit for a moment, I reckon the comic book movie days will be numbered as soon as an MCU movie flops. Flops, as in, audiences completely reject it. Love it or hate it, the MCU has dominated the marketplace, and as soon as audiences stop tuning in and turning out in droves, that's when decline will really begin. Until that day comes, DC will try and compete.

Speaking of which, it's alleged by some scoopers that Discovery chief David Zaslav wants DC films to be closely connected as a shared universe, and is eager to throw big bucks to increase the budgets, whereas Walter Hamada wants to produce them as cheap as possible. It's rumoured that Zaslav is also concerned DC's supposed multiverse approach. One reason is he doesn't understand it, and the other reason is he feels DC is already too far behind compared to Marvel, as they not only will beat DC to the punch with No Way Home, but have established characters in their shared universe to fall back on. I don't trust Warner will do the whole multiverse concept properly, and the cynic in me suspects this is only a buzzword to make standalone movies that aren't connected, with the exception of a couple.

Meanwhile, as I mentioned in the Snyder cut HBO Max thread, the European promotional launch took the opportunity to highlight ZSJL as a "global phenomenon" while highlighting that and BvS as some of the most iconic movies in DC's library. It might not mean much in the grand scheme of things, other than it's the first time that HBO Max have publically recognised ZSJL as a success. How about that? The Hollywood pretends it doesn't exist, but it's a hit everywhere else. f***ing Emmerich.

The future of DC is uncertain at this point in time. But what is certain is as long as the likes of Emmerich and Hamada are there, they will continue to try and mimic the damn MCU formula. For example, that degenerate James Gunn has confirmed he's working on another DC project, which is currently a secret. So if you were hoping Warner would learn their lesson and stop hiring Marvel mercenaries, prepare to be disappointed, and get ready to enjoy more of Gunn's sh*tty toilet humour. f*** me.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

https://ew.com/books/inside-dcs-plan-to-kill-the-justice-league/

First they announce the new video game Suicide Squad: Kill the Justice League.

Now they're announcing the new comic storyline Death of the Justice League.

This, in addition to the new Flashpoint Beyond comics written by DCEU saboteur Geoff Johns, fuels speculation Warner Butchers are really trying to get people into the idea of a DC universe without a proper Justice League. Assuming if The Flash movie is rebooting things, that is.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

I found this amusing clip from a recent video by Grace Randolph, about her true thoughts on the state of the so-called "DCEU".

https://twitter.com/JugovicDario/status/1491200362627616768/video/1
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Ten days ago, Variety reported that WBD is looking to overhaul DC Entertainment and wants to find their own Kevin Feige. Reading between the lines, it seems they want more of a cohesive universe, with some Elseworlds exceptions. The report also mentioned WBD felt Superman has been left languishing for far too long. Without wanting to jump to any conclusions, we have to wait and see what WBD has in mind.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

https://twitter.com/JamesGunn/status/1585005421487882240

How the f*** do you go from getting Cavill back as Superman to this disgraceful news, in a day?! WBD just shot its credibility by choosing this degenerate as the co-leader of its DC division.

An absolute disgrace. They might as well reinstate the Batgirl film.  >:(
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei