Top 5 favorite Catwoman moments/scenes

Started by Catbat, Wed, 19 Sep 2018, 17:46

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Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Wed, 26 Sep  2018, 13:12

My only guess why anybody could criticise that scene is because Batman was easily caught off-guard by somebody who was a direct threat to him. But my response to that is it's one thing for him to fight petty crooks and freaks on a routine basis, it's another thing to be taken by surprise and be confronted by another vigilante who also becomes a creature of the night. Particularly against somebody who is of the opposite sex. I guess you can rationalise it as Batman getting a taste of his own medicine. He had adopted the image of an animal and become this mysterious being to intimidate his targets and now it's his turn to become the target.

Besides, judging how Catwoman failed to puncture the Batsuit for a second time during the mistletoe scene, I think it's safe to say Batman learned his lesson and never underestimated her again.

That's a sensible and sound explanation: the sneak attacks she performed coupled with her highly erotic ways were something Batman had never faced before in Burton's universe. Also, you mention the fact that in the second movie Batman somehow became the target - I could not agree more on that. Compared to the more "regular" goons of the previous film, this time Bamtan faces criminals who seem to have more traits in common with him. The Circus Gang heavily plays on theatrics and intimidation tactics, plus they seem much more organized. The Poodle Lady manges to steal the batrang, while the "unit" with the Knifethrower Lady in charge is able to dismantle and "rewire" the batmobile. Catwoman repeatedly beats Batman at his own game (she ambushes him twice), is immune to his intimidating appearence, ridicules his gallantry ("How could you? I'm a woman!" ruse) and openly challenges the very nature of his vigilantism by linking it to his sexuality ("There you are..." allusion). In my opinion, the very core of Gotham's criminal world changed between the two movies, possibily because of Batman's very presence: we no longer see the ruthless but still "human-looking" underworld, but a variety of "creatures" (some cartoonish, other scary) that play by different rules. This might explain why - but it's only my two cent opinion - Batman looks weaker and worn out when confronting them: he can no longer count on the advantages he had when he was something totally new and unprecedented, instead he's alone fighting a moltitude of enemies that imitate his own tactics while working synergically against him. Most of the times he still manages to defeat them, but it all comes at a higher price that eventually drains him of his energies and makes him fail (as symbolized by Catwoman straddling him and proceeding to ridicule / punish him for the death of the Ice Princess).

1. Ballroom scene-Great symbolism, and acting on display.
2. Selina reciting rhymes as she gets shot-So unsettling, and creepy because of Pfeiffer's performance. We can see and hear that she's hurt badly but she continues towards Max like Michael Myers. A change from the comics, and some will say it doesn't belong in a Batman film, but I like it a lot.
3. The second time her, and Batman meet on the rooftop after Batman gets shot.
4. "How Could You? I'm a woman!"- A brief moment, but Pfeiffers performance is great in that scene.
5.Selina trashing her apartment