Joker (2019)

Started by Wayne49, Wed, 19 Sep 2018, 11:58

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Everything about this film appeals to me except the director, who seems to be mostly known for frat boy comedies, like the annoying and sophomoric Hangover series.

That said, if Peter 'Dumb and Dumber' Farrelly can make a Best Picture Oscar-winning film, Green Book, maybe there's a chance for Todd Phillips to graduate to more sophisticated filmmaking.
Johnny Gobs got ripped and took a walk off a roof, alright? No big loss.


I actually liked War Dogs more than I thought I would ....

I mean, sure, the Scorsese influence was obvious, but that doesn't bother me. Similar to watching a Brian De Palma movie (Dressed to Kill and Body DOuble come to mind), and being fully aware of Alfred Hitchcock's influence. Might be irritating to some, but it's never bothered me. Not even a little bit.
"Imagination is a quality given a man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humour was provided to console him for what he is."


I've seen that Empire cover story and photo making the rounds. Cool photo. But I think I'll skip the cover story for the time being. I want to go into Joker knowing nothing more than I do right now. I fear I may already know too much, in fact.

But, again, nothing I've seen about this movie so far has me nervous.

The Empire article came out, and there's some quotes from Todd Phillips in there. This was obvious, but here it is:

Quote from: Todd PhillipsWe didn't follow anything from the comic-books, which people are gonna be mad about. We just wrote our own version of where a guy like Joker might come from. That's what was interesting to me. We're not even doing Joker, but the story of becoming Joker. It's about this man.

Quote from: Travesty on Mon,  8 Jul  2019, 15:35
The Empire article came out, and there's some quotes from Todd Phillips in there. This was obvious, but here it is:

Quote from: Todd PhillipsWe didn't follow anything from the comic-books, which people are gonna be mad about. We just wrote our own version of where a guy like Joker might come from. That's what was interesting to me. We're not even doing Joker, but the story of becoming Joker. It's about this man.

Nerds are raging about this comment but I'm cool with it. The comics deviate and reinvent these characters constantly.
For some strange reason nerds rage when a film, book or cartoon does the same.

Quote from: Max Eckhardt on Tue,  9 Jul  2019, 08:35
Quote from: Travesty on Mon,  8 Jul  2019, 15:35
The Empire article came out, and there's some quotes from Todd Phillips in there. This was obvious, but here it is:

Quote from: Todd PhillipsWe didn't follow anything from the comic-books, which people are gonna be mad about. We just wrote our own version of where a guy like Joker might come from. That's what was interesting to me. We're not even doing Joker, but the story of becoming Joker. It's about this man.

Nerds are raging about this comment but I'm cool with it. The comics deviate and reinvent these characters constantly.
For some strange reason nerds rage when a film, book or cartoon does the same.
You're right. Way I see it, there will be comic references, but the movie will be completely free in the way it uses those references. The core 'Joker' theme will remain no matter what route they take: a beaten down man having a mental breakdown and embracing a life of comedy and crime.

Quote from: Max Eckhardt on Tue,  9 Jul  2019, 08:35
Nerds are raging about this comment but I'm cool with it. The comics deviate and reinvent these characters constantly.
For some strange reason nerds rage when a film, book or cartoon does the same.

Haha! Yeah, one would think after all the reboots, and especially after all the DTV DC animated movies over the years, with all their different interpretations/continuities, would have lessened the hurt feelings on deviation from the main source material.

I mean, think of it, we've had a animated movie where Superman is the biological son of General Zod, where Jim Gordon is Jack the Ripper, live action films where Spider-Man who finds Tony Stark more inspiring than his Uncle Ben could ever hope to be, a Nick Fury who loses his eye to a alien cat of all things, ect  .....

And they are pissing and moaning about deviation?!?!?

Haha!
"Imagination is a quality given a man to compensate him for what he is not, and a sense of humour was provided to console him for what he is."


Bummer, it's just Joaquin's regular voice. I thought he was going to transform into a completely different persona when he had the makeup on. It's just Arthur Fleck with makeup on. And it looks like he can go in and out of being The Joker. We see him walking around as Arthur, as he's happy that people are dressed up as The Joker. And that's Joker-ish, in the sense that he would like it, but not so much of him going in and out of the persona like Batman can with Bruce Wayne and Batman. But I guess this has little to do with the comics, so whatever.

So I dunno, we'll see. I'm still skeptical of this movie.