Fans launch #ReleaseTheSnyderCut website

[The Laughing Fish]

Don't mistake me for an attorney but my understanding is that most NDA's have an expiration date. A gag order from a judge is one thing. But an NDA is something else. Something lesser. It's not meant to be a permanent vow of silence.

If Snyder broke his NDA and shared a bunch of verboten pictures... well, I don't see how that's possible. He's the director of the movie (by credit, if nothing else) and from a legal standpoint, those images could be construed as deleted scenes. They're not his property, obviously, but it's kind of ludicrous to claim that directors don't have some kind of privilege to share information about or even photos of their films.

Now that I think about it, Snyder probably has a longer leash than anybody else involved with the production, if he even has a leash at all.

In retrospect, all this talk about the NDA reaffirms the fact that Warner had no intention of releasing the movie Snyder was making, despite the fact he agreed to compromise his original vision for the film with more rewrites. And yet, the bastards still decided to put on this charade to reshoot his movie. If this was what they were going to do, I would've preferred they had the grace and dignity to delay the entire project and let the director leave on his own terms, instead of this disgusting mistreatment and deception.

But the fact is, Snyder did get to make the movie, and according to him, it IS done. My only guess why he would share these Cyborg spoilers is to encourage fans not to give up the fight and keep demanding for the movie. No matter how hard those Warner pricks try to hide it and want us to forget about it.

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I saw this quote by the Warner president, and it made me laugh.

In regards to reviving DC on the film side in the wake of Batman vs. Superman and Justice League, Emmerich said that the trick is putting the IP in the hands of filmmakers' visions, which is the overall creed of Warner Bros. They're a filmmaker-driven studio.

"Great directors are the lifeblood of a studio," said Emmerich. "But they need great producers" he added, to great cheers.

https://deadline.com/2019/06/warner-studio-toby-emmerich-peter-roth-dc-netflix-godzilla-vs-kong-kevin-tsujihara-1202629538/

Just as a reminder, Toby Emmerich is the same dickhead who spin doctered the news when Snyder departed from the film and Whedon replaced him back in May 2017.

The directing is minimal and it has to adhere to the style and tone and the template that Zack set. We're not introducing any new characters. It's the same characters in some new scenes. He's handing the baton to Joss, but the course has really been set by Zack. I still believe that despite this tragedy, we'll still end up with a great movie.

https://www.hollywoodreporter.com/heat-vision/zack-snyder-steps-down-justice-league-deal-family-tragedy-1006455

What a joke. First of all, a "filmmaker-driven studio" doesn't make the director do rewrites to change his original script, and then suddenly hijack the movie in post-production and replace the completed footage with expensive reshoots. Never the mind the fact lying to the whole public it would still stay true to the director's vision. Cutting 30 minutes of BvS didn't exactly help artistic integrity either, but doing what they did to JL was a f***ing disgusting act.

Make no mistake, this is Warner's pathetic attempt of trying to control the narrative. They must be aware of the growing alert and demand for Snyder's cut of the film, and they're trying to avoid any more scrutiny. Which must be one of the reasons why they're not going to Comic Con this year, and why they're throwing their supposed "trust" in Matt Reeves. Trying to build goodwill because another director is coming off recent success and we're encouraged to think Batman is supposed to be in good hands so we can forget about Affleck's "stain" on the character. What a load of sh*t. And to think some people why I refuse to pay any money to this company any more.

To be honest, I wouldn't be surprised if one of those hit pieces from The Wall Street Journal was approved by the studio itself.

[The Laughing Fish]

In addition to unveiling the first image of Darkseid yesterday, Zack Snyder released another deleted shot of Victor Stone, this time he's looking at an hallucination of himself and his family.



This is what Ray Fisher tweeted, and by the sounds of it, it must be a quote what was said in that scene.

"My poor broken boy. I can make you whole again, Victor."

https://twitter.com/rehsifyar/status/1140393876907352064

Karen Bryson, who plays Victor's mother Elinore, simply tweeted this in response to Fisher's tweet.

I LOVE this...

https://twitter.com/Karen_Bryson/status/1140548457884803074

Unsurprisingly, at a fan convention over the weekend, Fisher said if he had the power, he'd release the cut.

https://twitter.com/J2HNNY/status/1139744336747421696

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Another day, another black and white Cyborg image from the Snyder cut released for the world to see.



And yet, some people will still think the cut doesn't exist.

I remember when the theatrical release came out, I said Cyborg was well established enough as a character. Well, judging by the removed content I've shared thus far, I must confess I am sorely mistaken.

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JL cinematographer Fabian Wagner has shared a video and a photo of that last Cyborg scene on Instagram, confirming it was supposed to take place in a cemetery.

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bzvbau3BM1Z/?hl=en

https://www.instagram.com/p/Bzq7TWjhMOE/?hl=en

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When little golden nuggets like this surface, it makes me wonder how much Whedon changed. It's worth questioning if Snyder's version has anything in common at all with Whedon's version.

[The Laughing Fish]

When little golden nuggets like this surface, it makes me wonder how much Whedon changed.

I think it's a given to suggest he has changed quite a lot. I found this listicle by Screen Rant that has every change and comparison thus far:
https://screenrant.com/zack-snyder-cut-justice-league-changes

Meanwhile, the official Warner Twitter page took the opportunity to promote the American Black Film Festival, with a PR spin saying "We are proud to support events like this to highlight and empower diverse storytellers".

https://twitter.com/warnerbros/status/1149009944403951616

As you can see in the replies of that tweet, fans called out Warner's virtue signalling by saying they wouldn't have reduced Cyborg's arc and removed characters like his mother and Iris West if they truly believed in diversity. This makes the replacement of such story and characters with a generic Russian family even more infuriating.

In other news, Newsweek reported the demand for the Snyder cut when WarnerMedia announced the release of their new streaming service, HBO Max.
https://www.newsweek.com/what-snyder-cut-hbo-max-1448388

Also, I've heard some rumours online that Warner Butchers are going to double down and broadcast an extended version of the Whedon cut. If that were the case, it goes to show how much contempt they have for their own audience and fan base.

[The Laughing Fish]

I get it. It really sucks what they did with JL. I was severely pissed after Raimi was booted from Spider-Man. My anger over the JL situation was like a raging volcano. They should've released the Snyder version. But instead, they lied to our faces and screwed over a misunderstood genius (Snyder). I feel that pain as much as anybody. But one year, five years or even ten years from now, what's the difference? The Batman movie brand is eventually going to continue after this episode. Just as Batman Begins followed Batman and Robin eight years later. The Reeves movie is being made whether we like it or not, and while I am burned, I'm still a Batman fan. I'm open to seeing what he offers. Batman has only ever been my main interest with the DC movie brand. The Aquaman, Flash, etc side of things can bomb for all I care. I liked the dynamic of Batman interacting with them, but those days are over. As for Reeves, I'll wait to see what happens.

After giving this more thought, I have to revisit your post again.

Those two examples you used to compare the disappointment over what happened to JL are a false equivalence. Spider-Man 4 never even got made, nor did Sam Raimi ever found himself in a position where all of the footage he filmed were suddenly reshot or discarded completely. At least Sony were upfront with their intentions to reboot Spider-Man back in 2010-11. As a matter of fact, compared to those hacks at Warner, you have to give Sony props for being transparent and conducting business far more professionally. Also, it's debatable that Sony actually booted Raimi, but that's for another topic.

The same thing goes for B&R. Love or hate that movie, at least Warner were honest with what kind of movie they were making back then. This isn't like they hired Tim Burton to direct, but then they hijacked his work and turned it into a campy Joel Schumacher movie - while lying to everybody about the circumstances surrounding the original director's departure. For better or worse, B&R was made exactly how it was intended. It is what it is.

The same cannot be said for JL. Now that the Snyder cut is confirmed to exist and more details are coming to light, Warner are still ignoring calls for it to be released. You see, it's one thing to scrap your original movie plans, such as an Affleck Batman solo movie. I can accept that happens all the time in Hollywood, it happened to Spider-Man many times i.e. Spider-Man 4 and Sinister Six. But when a studio has a cut of a movie that already exists and should've been released in the first place, yet still ignores demands from fans AND people involved in the production to this day, that is unacceptable. I guarantee you Warner would earn some goodwill back if they do the right thing and put the movie out there, but they choose not to. All of this tells me is they have no respect for anybody, whether its fans, creatives or actors, and doesn't give me any confidence they won't sabotage their productions ever again. Who is to say they won't sabotage another DC movie if it doesn't test well among audiences? My only hope is the next time they do that, they won't take advantage of somebody's personal tragedy and slap his or her name on the credits.

The longer this goes on, the more of an impression I get that Warner deliberately planned to write off JL and throw Snyder under the bus, even though he was coping with personal tragedy. It's disgusting. If they really had lost confidence in his vision for JL then they should've postponed the film's production as soon as BvS was released and remove him. Yes, it would still upset the loyal MOS and BvS fans, but it would've been a lot more business-oriented and more professional, than the disgraceful course of action they took.

Matt Reeves is making his movie, but so what? I don't have to watch it. I don't even have to acknowledge it. You can do so if you wish, but understand this, you will only enable Warner's bad corporate behaviour. You might not like what I said, but that's the truth. I'm a Batman fan too, but it doesn't make me less of a fan if I don't want to support any more movies from a greedy, disrespectful company. When consumer trust is broken, don't get upset if fans stop buying the product. The only DC movie I want now is the real version of JL. If they're not going to put that out, I'm not going to let those thieves at Warner manipulate my fandom ever again.

[The Laughing Fish]

There is now a Wikipedia page dedicated to the Snyder cut, the upcoming Black Suit Edition fan edit and details of scrapped JL sequel plans.

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Versions_of_Justice_League

This particular quote under the Criticism & Debate section explaining why the original version of JL won't come out caught my eye.

Brooks Barnes, Hollywood reporter for The New York Times theorizes that the "Snyder Cut" will never be released due to a mix of the high cost to finish the project and corporate ego. He elaborated: "The ego kind of comes in where, like, no studio will ever put itself in a position of looking like they made the wrong decision. Let's just say it was finished, they put it out, everyone loves it, 'Oh my God, this should have been the movie.' That puts jobs at risk at the high level. Right? And so right there, it's not happening."

For the umpteenth time, this is the reason why I won't be supporting any more Warner movies from now on. I'm not going to pay money that help these bastards keep their jobs. f*** them. And if anybody out there is going to hold it against me for that for whatever reason, well quite frankly, f*** YOU TOO.

Putting that little outburst aside, I remember hearing about Snyder paying tribute to the fans who donated to charity earlier this year with a gift. Yet again, this is taken from the Wikipedia page:

In January 2019, Zack Snyder released a t-shirt as a reward for donating to a crowdfunding campaign with all proceeds going toward the American Foundation for Suicide Prevention. His design, which resembles the Kabbalah tree of life, is said to contain the plot of his five-film arc including a planned Justice League trilogy within a mosaic of cryptic symbols and phrases. The reverse side of the shirt has a quote from Joseph Campbell, American literature professor famed for his creation of the Hero's journey, which reads: "All the gods, all the heavens, all the hells, are within you.

This is what the shirt looks like.



And here is a better close-up of the front of the shirt's design.

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Fabian Wagner took to Instagram again to reveal the scene where Bruce shaves his face at his private jet was also drastically reshot.

Beautiful set by @ptatopoulos of the original Wayne jet. Loved shooting it. Dark, moody and very Snyder

Source: https://www.instagram.com/p/B0u9RMbhsWh/



Compare that to what we saw in the theatrical version.



Why? Among a lot of things that leaves fans begging to question why bother tampering with what you got, was it really important to spend more money just to add a few more lights to that scene? What, did they really think the audience are so stupid that any dim lighting alone could trigger them into thinking the scene would be too "dark and gritty"? Who knows, judging by the utter stupidity of mass audiences, it's probably true.

Meanwhile, here's another leaked image of non-CGI Superman that was apparently released awhile ago.



Compare that to the CGI version in the theatrical version underneath, you can't help but ask "why" yet again. What could Superman have said that warranted the moment needing to be reshot? Was reshooting it with "I'm also a big fan of justice" really that necessary?

By the way, here's a picture of Cavill's moustache without the CGI.



As you can see, they added those motion capture spots all over his face and neck. The end result still results a rubbery-looking face. Granted, it's not quite as bad as his poorly rendered cheeks in the opening cam footage scene, but it still goes to show how lazy and phoned in these reshoots were.

Just release the intended cut already, you hacks.