Should Darkseid make an appearance?

[The Laughing Fish]

Snyder has spoiled the ending of his cut by sharing a screenshot of how Steppenwolf was defeated, and revealing how it involved Darkseid.

https://twitter.com/RTSnyderCut/status/1152583669191729154

https://twitter.com/RTSnyderCut/status/1152591178073870337

Meanwhile, photographer Clay Enos - who has worked on a lot of Snyder's movies, including JL - tweeted Snyder's Vero with the hashtag out of support.

https://twitter.com/ClayEnos/status/1152638222268358657

What an infuriating and depressing state of affairs.

[The Laughing Fish]

The more we find out about all these changes, the more I lament the lack of a Snyder cut.

I'm revisiting this again, because all I want to say is I fear Warner Butchers will try to play down the fans' efforts for supporting the release of the Snyder cut as a nothing but a "fringe minority cult". I've seen it reported already in some clickbait outlets, the worst being a tweet from that trash heap SyFy. Despite linking an interview to a couple of Snyder cut organisers over the weekend at Comic Con, the official Twitter page still said the cut doesn't exist and shouldn't exist. How pathetic and childish can you get?

But it's still not any more despicable than Warner trying to sweep the entire ordeal under the carpet. It has come to a point where one can only ask how can they support a company with such bad corporate behaviour.

Meanwhile, Nick McKinless went to Instagram again to post this message on someone's this fan art. I like how his use of the hashtag #injusticeleague can be referred to Ares among the villains, and how the film, cast and crew and fans got screwed over. Irony.

[The Laughing Fish]

The Film Exiles are now claiming that Darkseid's assistant Desaad was in the Snyder cut, and he was played by British actor Peter Guinness.

https://www.google.com/amp/s/theexilesnetwork.wordpress.com/2019/08/25/peter-guinness-was-desaad-in-the-snyder-cut/amp/%3f__twitter_impression=true

[The Laughing Fish]

^Darkseid himself has corroborated the news about Peter Guiness as Desaad.

A brilliant actor and a genuinely kind person.

https://twitter.com/Ray__Porter/status/1165736756173361152

To think that key characters of the New Gods mythos were replaced with a generic Russian family...what a downgrade.

[thecolorsblend]

It's funny how Whedon made very few bad decisions with the first Avengers film... and made very few good ones with Justice League.

Actually, it's not funny at all, it's a tragedy. A tragedy.

It's a tragedy.

[The Laughing Fish]

It's funny how Whedon made very few bad decisions with the first Avengers film... and made very few good ones with Justice League.

Actually, it's not funny at all, it's a tragedy. A tragedy.

It's a tragedy.

I have no love for Whedon nowadays. I think he's a Valley girl-speaking, unfunny dickhead who has proven himself to be a one-trick pony. Between the two Avengers movies he did, only the first one is good, in my opinion. Sometimes I wonder if Kevin Feige had a far greater control on the first one than we realise.

But let's not kid ourselves, he was only one out of many culprits behind the JL sabotage. The fact is he was hired by Warner Butchers to completely change Snyder's movie into something else, and most insulting of all, they still slapped Snyder's name on the director's credit. I thought the Director's Guild or whatever would've prevented this from happening, but it's quite clear they didn't. It seems Hollywood cares even less about directors and screenwriters' rights than ever before. Say what you will about SII and Richard Donner, but at least back then they had the professional courtesy to give Donner the chance to decide if he still wanted his name associated with the Lester version.

As time has gone by and the more we find out about these details and characters removed from Snyder's vision, I can't help but feel the reshoots were organised as a write-off. Sure, such a statement would sound ludicrous under normal circumstances, but Warner's conduct has been reprehensible and unprofessional. The biggest slap in the face is they still won't release a (near) completed cut of the movie. But they hope people like me will look forward to loosely connected movies, reboots and cash grabs that use the name of IPs in a pretentious way to "elevate" the comic book genre? I'm quite sure the masses will eat it right up like the hive mind they are, but for me, I say:

[thecolorsblend]

The fact is he was hired by Warner Butchers to completely change Snyder's movie into something else, and most insulting of all, they still slapped Snyder's name on the director's credit. I thought the Director's Guild or whatever would've prevented this from happening, but it's quite clear they didn't. It seems Hollywood cares even less about directors and screenwriters' rights than ever before.

Especially in light of your source below, I reserve the right to be wrong. But I always thought that something like this would require the original director to file some sort of complaint or something before the DGA could get involved.

Assuming I'm right (and I may not be), I honestly believe Snyder had a pretty bad taste in his mouth from his Twitter experience, his WB experience, his family's tragedy and all that. A p!ssing contest over who gets director's credit for the film may have been the furthest thing from his mind. Taking his name off the movie might've created other problems for him as well.

Bottom line, I don't give a flaming fart who gets credit for JL, that is by no means a Snyder film as far as I'm concerned. And I get the idea he would probably agree with that.

Say what you will about SII and Richard Donner, but at least back then they had the professional courtesy to give Donner the chance to decide if he still wanted his name associated with the Lester version.

Huh. Never knew that. I never got the impression that the Salkinds would show that type of professional courtesy, whether the DGA mandates it or not. To be clear, I'm not anti-Salkind. I believe that Superman fans owe them an immeasurable debt of gratitude. But let's face it, they were a little bit shysters.

As time has gone by and the more we find out about these details and characters removed from Snyder's vision, I can't help but feel the reshoots were organised as a write-off. Sure, such a statement would sound ludicrous under normal circumstances, but Warner's conduct has been reprehensible and unprofessional.

I think the fix was in after a certain point. Right or wrong, I think WB decided the movie was a moneypit so expensive reshoots which would guarantee that the film tanks at the box office could have been considered a face-saving measure. It gives them the ability to say "Hey, the reshoots we did sent the budget through the roof, NOBODY can come back from that!"

As ever, Hollywood is all about egos and protecting the right people's egos. The more that silly stuff like this comes along, the more I think ego is even more important than profit. I don't think profit is even in the top five most important things in Hollywood. And #1 without question is ego.

[The Laughing Fish]

Assuming I'm right (and I may not be), I honestly believe Snyder had a pretty bad taste in his mouth from his Twitter experience, his WB experience, his family's tragedy and all that. A p!ssing contest over who gets director's credit for the film may have been the furthest thing from his mind. Taking his name off the movie might've created other problems for him as well.

Bottom line, I don't give a flaming fart who gets credit for JL, that is by no means a Snyder film as far as I'm concerned. And I get the idea he would probably agree with that.

I believe it's a guarantee that Snyder would agree with that, now that he has gone on the record several times saying he never watched the reshot version of the movie. Among all the scenes he shared on Vero, his latest post about Steppenwolf's defeat in his cut is yet another example that the movie released in theaters wasn't his.

Under the circumstances Snyder had been dealing with, he had every right to prioritise himself and his family over the movie. It's very likely he thought Warner would take care and polish off the rest come release date. Instead, we get the opposite.

I think the fix was in after a certain point. Right or wrong, I think WB decided the movie was a moneypit so expensive reshoots which would guarantee that the film tanks at the box office could have been considered a face-saving measure. It gives them the ability to say "Hey, the reshoots we did sent the budget through the roof, NOBODY can come back from that!"

And this is exactly why I say it was insulting for slapping the man's name for directing that completely reshot movie. Not only did they appear to write JL off, they decided to throw Snyder under the bus and make him the scapegoat for the movie's box office failure. In my mind, that makes them complicit in the pathetic clickbait media's attempts to slander him, and it only enables their hyperbolic condemnation of the DCEU. Yes, as you may have implied before, ghouls in the media and Internet would've reveled if his name was taken off the movie. But let's face it, these scumbags were going to hate JL in whatever shape or form. These were the same pieces of sh*t that wrote slanderous articles how the Amazon costumes were "sexist", despite them looking no more skimpy than the WW movie. If Snyder - or any director for that matter - was going to get criticised for something, let it be the movie they wanted to make. Not the one that was reshot behind their backs and weren't responsible for making.

As ever, Hollywood is all about egos and protecting the right people's egos. The more that silly stuff like this comes along, the more I think ego is even more important than profit. I don't think profit is even in the top five most important things in Hollywood. And #1 without question is ego.

Your comment is spot on, and it's relevant more than ever now that prick Toby Emmerich is still in charge of Warner - the same man who lied to everybody over the reshoots being minimal and staying true to the movie as intended. This son of a bitch had the audacity to say at a corporate event  that Warner is "a filmmaker-driven studio in need of great producers", despite everything they did to JL. I've heard aside from Aquaman, Warner's box office results thus far this year has been really poor. Well, mark my words, the next time a WB movie succeeds at the box office and with the dickhead critics, this asshole will try take credit for it. What a snake oil salesman.

[The Laughing Fish]

As ever, Hollywood is all about egos and protecting the right people's egos. The more that silly stuff like this comes along, the more I think ego is even more important than profit. I don't think profit is even in the top five most important things in Hollywood. And #1 without question is ego.

Your comment is spot on, and it's relevant more than ever now that prick Toby Emmerich is still in charge of Warner - the same man who lied to everybody over the reshoots being minimal and staying true to the movie as intended. This son of a bitch had the audacity to say at a corporate event  that Warner is "a filmmaker-driven studio in need of great producers", despite everything they did to JL. I've heard aside from Aquaman, Warner's box office results thus far this year has been really poor. Well, mark my words, the next time a WB movie succeeds at the box office and with the dickhead critics, this asshole will try take credit for it. What a snake oil salesman.

I forgot to mention another thing I wanted to say.

I wouldn't be surprised if the higher-ups from Warner are responsible for hiring clickbait hacks to write hit pieces spreading lies that Snyder's cut doesn't exist, even after everything that has been revealed. Whenever there's ego, assholes will stoop so low to denigrate others in an effort to maintain their delusional self-importance. If you remember reading that rubbish article from the Wall Street Journal last year, it basically mocked the entire movement for demanding the cut that "doesn't exist". Of course, all these revelations and testimonies by the likes of Oliva, Momoa, Fisher and Snyder himself only make a mockery of that hit piece. But of course, Warner Butchers will continue to try and ignore the elephant in the room as long as people still go see their movies. They will happily encourage idiots into mistaking JL fans as nothing more than a "fringe lunatic minority", as long as they keep making money from other movies.

Scumbags.

[The Laughing Fish]

Here is a better look at the mural where Diana finds the imagery of the three Mother Boxes and Darkseid in the Snyder cut. I found these from a Twitter user called Darkseid Brasileiro.





Source: https://twitter.com/kaiqmgt/status/1183168677312716802

As you can make out on the second image, it was photographed on August 13th, 2016.

I posted the following black and white photos before in another thread last year - long before anybody knew Darkseid was cast and featured in the cut for real. I could be wrong, but I think Diana holding the torch was in the theatrical cut, but completely reshot like everything else.





This is yet anther reason to get pissed off. A lot of work and effort was put into this, and the audacity of every bastard involved to remove it is infuriating. Instead, all of this gets replaced with Bruce finding this mural of Arthur surrounding by all three tribes (human, Atlanteans and Amazons) guarding theMother Boxes.



In comparison, it's insulting to replace that original work of art with this cheap drawing. And in retrospect, it doesn't really make much sense for Aquaman to be drawn into that painting.

Fratelli Warner, vergognatevi.

EDIT: I neglected to post this rough sketch of the mural, explaining how the sequence was supposed to play out. Judging from the details, it seems this scene is similar to Hippolyta's explaining the conflict between Zeus and Ares to young Diana in the WW movie.