Jokers Clothes

Started by galenj01, Fri, 13 May 2016, 23:11

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im having my yearly watch of Batman 89 and i have a couple of questions:

Did batman let go of Jack when he fell into the acid? is there a definitive answer, im inclined to think he slipped out of his grip.

Also, after Joker has resurfaced after his fall he goes to the doctor to fix his face. His clothes are a purple suit with orange shirt. Did the acid dye his clothes or did he get changed?
Ohhhh, that looks like fun! Lemme try! *Lemme try!* Ball up the fist, reach way back, and assert your... OW!!


There was another thread discussing about Jack Napier's fall awhile ago. I have to admit, I thought Batman dropped Jack on purpose the first time I watched the scene because of the crazed look in Keaton's eyes. But after repeat viewings, I believe he dropped Jack by accident; as you could see he was struggling to hold onto his hand too.

And yes, I thought the chemical acid bleached his clothes purple too.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

It's never definitively answered but I like to think that Batman tried to save him initially, but then remembered how he just murdered a guy in cold blood a few seconds ago so decided to let him fall. 

Besides, what we he do if he saved him?  Arrest him for the police?  Beat him up?

This Batman didn't have a 'no killing rule', although he wasn't a murderer.

There's also this from Batman's first comic:


I sort of think it falls in the middle. He was trying to pull him up but as Jack started slipping it was tugging Batman with him and rather than follow him in he let Jack lie in the bed he'd made. Well Grissom and Eckhart technically made that bed but you know what I mean.

Wasn't he wearing a purple suit when they were talking about sacking Axis? So it would make since that he still had it on under his trench coat while carrying out the break in.


Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 14 May  2016, 07:53
I have to admit, I thought Batman dropped Jack on purpose the first time I watched the scene because of the crazed look in Keaton's eyes. But after repeat viewings, I believe he dropped Jack by accident; as you could see he was struggling to hold onto his hand too.

Wasn't the crazed look because Batman was kinda recognizing/remembering Jack Napier from his childhood?

Quote from: KeatonisBatman on Sun, 15 May  2016, 00:10
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sat, 14 May  2016, 07:53
I have to admit, I thought Batman dropped Jack on purpose the first time I watched the scene because of the crazed look in Keaton's eyes. But after repeat viewings, I believe he dropped Jack by accident; as you could see he was struggling to hold onto his hand too.

Wasn't the crazed look because Batman was kinda recognizing/remembering Jack Napier from his childhood?

I thought the plot showed that Batman didn't recognise Joker from his past until he was later asked "Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?"; the same question Jack asked right after murdering Bruce's parents. That triggered Bruce's memory.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 15 May  2016, 00:59

I thought the plot showed that Batman didn't recognise Joker from his past until he was later asked "Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?"; the same question Jack asked right after murdering Bruce's parents. That triggered Bruce's memory.

I just always thought Bruce was scared of him as he's hanging on to his hand.  The look in his eyes is almost one of fear.  Look at his face when he backs away after dropping Jack.  It's as if he's seen him before.  In that moment, Bruce just can't place where or why... not yet.  That comes later, when he's in the Batcave.  It's not so far fetched if you think about it.

Quote from: KeatonisBatman on Sun, 15 May  2016, 07:50
Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Sun, 15 May  2016, 00:59

I thought the plot showed that Batman didn't recognise Joker from his past until he was later asked "Have you ever danced with the devil in the pale moonlight?"; the same question Jack asked right after murdering Bruce's parents. That triggered Bruce's memory.

I just always thought Bruce was scared of him as he's hanging on to his hand.  The look in his eyes is almost one of fear.  Look at his face when he backs away after dropping Jack.  It's as if he's seen him before.  In that moment, Bruce just can't place where or why... not yet.  That comes later, when he's in the Batcave.  It's not so far fetched if you think about it.

Looked to me like it was a fear of taking a swim in that pea green sh*t below.

^ LOL.  Yep, that too.