#BvS SPOILER THREAD

Started by Paul (ral), Tue, 15 Mar 2016, 16:51

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Quote from: The Dark Knight on Sun,  3 Apr  2016, 04:37You don't get what I am saying, boy. It's a preconceived hatred of Snyder. Even strengths of BvS are dismissed and turned into products of shame. A section of people simply do NOT want BvS to succeed. This hatred is clear as day, yet some oafs out there turn a blind eye and keep drinking the cool aid with an extra dose of ice blocks. And perhaps with a slice of lemon peel. I quite like Begins, but the other two can swing like a carcass in the breeze as far as I am concerned. I've had a decade to assess the Nolan series and spit it out like a spoonfull of grubs. BvS gets sliced and diced for being a droning bore, yet Rises gets a free pass. It's double standards. TDK Rises should be called A Walk Down Memory Bane: A Series of Nonsensical Speeches. Nolan is a golden child with the critics, and Snyder is not. They make no secret they don't like the guy, and I mean personally too. BvS was effectively dead out of the gate with a section of critics. And now that childish petition to have him sacked is floating around. The usual suspects are licking their lips.
Maybe, maybe not. Maybe they just don't think Snyder is a good storyteller. I don't know what nonsensical speeches there are in TDKRises and I don't know why talking and discussing things is boring to you. But you're calling people names. There's no reason for that. Have a very great day!

God bless you! God bless everyone!

Quote from: Dagenspear on Sun,  3 Apr  2016, 03:17Execution isn't something to accept or deny.
Good god damn, do you ever get sick of the god damn semantics?

Mon, 4 Apr 2016, 11:34 #122 Last Edit: Mon, 4 Apr 2016, 11:35 by The Dark Knight
Quote from: thecolorsblend on Sun,  3 Apr  2016, 22:29
Quote from: Dagenspear on Sun,  3 Apr  2016, 03:17Execution isn't something to accept or deny.
Good god damn, do you ever get sick of the god damn semantics?
God bless you colors. God bless everyone in your life.

Moving along, I really dig Batman's opening scene in BvS. It's not as iconic as B89's "I'm Batman", but it's very good. Saving a bunch of people, but they prefer to remain in the cage because "he's still here." They're terrified of their rescuer and refer to him as a devil. That's just awesome. And I can't forget Affleckman hiding in the corner of the room like a creepy, old school monster. It struck a nice tone for me.

Quote from: The Dark Knight on Mon,  4 Apr  2016, 11:34
Moving along, I really dig Batman's opening scene in BvS. It's not as iconic as B89's "I'm Batman", but it's very good. Saving a bunch of people, but they prefer to remain in the cage because "he's still here." They're terrified of their rescuer and refer to him as a devil. That's just awesome. And I can't forget Affleckman hiding in the corner of the room like a creepy, old school monster. It struck a nice tone for me.

Affleck did compare that scene to Ridley Scott's Alien in an interview. I can see why, he looked and moved like a Xenomorph! Talk about becoming a creature of the night literally.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Mon, 4 Apr 2016, 13:19 #124 Last Edit: Mon, 4 Apr 2016, 13:33 by The Laughing Fish
The editor from Comic Book Movie compiled a list of "five of the dumbest and most frustrating complaints about BvS".

Source: http://www.comicbookmovie.com/batman_vs_superman/5-dumbest-and-most-frustrating-complaints-about-batman-v-a132841

Well, looking back, I do find it odd that Superman called out his mother's name to make Batman pause. My only guess is there was a deleted scene where Clark found out Batman's true identity and discovered his backstory.

I'm still not completely sold on Superman not sensing the bomb at the Senate hearing, but I agree that the criticism over Lex Luthor's plan makes me roll my eyes.
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Mon,  4 Apr  2016, 12:29
Quote from: The Dark Knight on Mon,  4 Apr  2016, 11:34
Moving along, I really dig Batman's opening scene in BvS. It's not as iconic as B89's "I'm Batman", but it's very good. Saving a bunch of people, but they prefer to remain in the cage because "he's still here." They're terrified of their rescuer and refer to him as a devil. That's just awesome. And I can't forget Affleckman hiding in the corner of the room like a creepy, old school monster. It struck a nice tone for me.

Affleck did compare that scene to Ridley Scott's Alien in an interview. I can see why, he looked and moved like a Xenomorph! Talk about becoming a creature of the night literally.
I can see how Affleck's Bruce became so cruel and jaded. The world does need a good thrashing.

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Mon,  4 Apr  2016, 13:19

Well, looking back, I do find it odd that Superman called out his mother's name to make Batman pause. My only guess is there was a deleted scene where Clark found out Batman's true identity and discovered his backstory.


I think it's well established that Clark finds out that Bruce is Batman. It is also well established that Clark had been doing quite a bit of detective work on Batman (and thus Bruce Wayne once he finds out). So it's not illogical at all that he finds out Bruces mothers name. An alternative explanation is that even if Batman does kill him, he hopes Batman will go save Martha Kent afterwards (as his next target likely would have been Lex).

Quote from: The Dark KnightGod bless you colors. God bless everyone in your life.
Mocking? And The Laughing Fish says TDK/Rises is nihilistic. Have a very great day!

God bless you! God bless everyone!

Quote from: The Laughing Fish on Mon,  4 Apr  2016, 13:19Well, looking back, I do find it odd that Superman called out his mother's name to make Batman pause. My only guess is there was a deleted scene where Clark found out Batman's true identity and discovered his backstory.
Superman had two options in that scene.

He could've said "Before you kill me, be sure you save my mother." Batman's first logical response to that very well might have been "Okay. What's her name?". Or he could've said "Before you kill me, save Martha." Under the circumstances, I think Superman cut to the chase rather effectively.

Quote from: Dagenspear on Mon,  4 Apr  2016, 15:14
Quote from: The Dark KnightGod bless you colors. God bless everyone in your life.
Mocking? And The Laughing Fish says TDK/Rises is nihilistic. Have a very great day!

God bless you! God bless everyone!

So what if I did?

Mate, if you really don't like my opinions and what I say, ignore me. I told you that seven months ago anyway.

Here - I'll be generous and give you these steps to add me to your ignore list so you'll never have to read my comments whenever you log onto the forum ever again:


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  • Finally, click on the Add button - and voila! You've blocked all of my comments from appearing on your screen forever! It's awesome, isn't it? I should know, I just added you to my ignore list as well. Have a very nice day, and God bless!

Grazie Dio! Grazie tutti!


Anyway...

Quote from: thecolorsblend on Mon,  4 Apr  2016, 18:08
He could've said "Before you kill me, be sure you save my mother." Batman's first logical response to that very well might have been "Okay. What's her name?". Or he could've said "Before you kill me, save Martha." Under the circumstances, I think Superman cut to the chase rather effectively.

Don't get me wrong, I do get the meaning, and even appreciate the sentimental moment revealing Bruce and Clark's mothers both share the same name. I only think it could've been executed a little better, that's all.

But at least I'm not one of those people complaining about how Cavill called out that name. Apparently, it doesn't occur to some people that having a foot crushing on your throat could distort your voice a little bit. Meh...
QuoteJonathan Nolan: He [Batman] has this one rule, as the Joker says in The Dark Knight. But he does wind up breaking it. Does he break it in the third film?

Christopher Nolan: He breaks it in...

Jonathan Nolan: ...the first two.

Source: http://books.google.com.au/books?id=uwV8rddtKRgC&pg=PR8&dq=But+he+does+wind+up+breaking+it.&hl=en&sa=X&ei