#BvS SPOILER THREAD

Started by Paul (ral), Tue, 15 Mar 2016, 16:51

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I was thinking if it was Mercy, Lex could've found out and paid her back.

I think it was just some random babe who got lucky....very lucky....ugh. Bitch.

lol

Bruce wakes up next to the woman before he goes to Lex Luthor's house and meets Mercy, so it's not her.
That awkward moment when you remember the only Batman who's never killed is George Clooney...

Quote from: Catwoman on Wed, 30 Mar  2016, 00:12
I think it was just some random babe who got lucky....very lucky....ugh. Bitch.

lol
Keaton, Bale and now Affleck are the live action Batmen to....


You really think George didn't say to Elle, "Hey baby, let's..."



:P

I'm gonna defend the film on one criticism I'm seeing pop up, which is that Thomas Wayne's character was somehow altered into being reckless and idiotic when trying to fight Joe Chill in the opening flashback scene.

Perhaps people are used to the more pacifistic Thomas Wayne that we saw in 1989 and in Batman Begins, but this moment with Thomas is actually directly out of the comics.

Snyder directly lifted the image of Thomas Wayne's fist out of The Dark Knight Returns.

This isn't unique to TDKR either, though.

If you look at the very first take on the origin of Batman in 1939, Thomas Wayne charges at the mugger to try to get him to leave Martha alone. The fact that Thomas attempts to fight him off and fails to is part of the Batman origin. You could even say that Thomas's failure to stop a man with the gun is what subconsciously pushes Bruce into training himself to become one of the greatest martial artists ever.

I think Burton's take is still the most haunting, due to the score and hollow/echo-y sound effects. And Nolan's has a bit more emotional impact on the simple fact that we got to spend some time with Thomas Wayne before he died. But Snyder's take is, hands down, the most comic book faithful.
That awkward moment when you remember the only Batman who's never killed is George Clooney...

Quote from: BatmAngelus on Wed, 30 Mar  2016, 04:46
I'm gonna defend the film on one criticism I'm seeing pop up, which is that Thomas Wayne's character was somehow altered into being reckless and idiotic when trying to fight Joe Chill in the opening flashback scene.

Perhaps people are used to the more pacifistic Thomas Wayne that we saw in 1989 and in Batman Begins, but this moment with Thomas is actually directly out of the comics.

Snyder directly lifted the image of Thomas Wayne's fist out of The Dark Knight Returns.

This isn't unique to TDKR either, though.

If you look at the very first take on the origin of Batman in 1939, Thomas Wayne charges at the mugger to try to get him to leave Martha alone. The fact that Thomas attempts to fight him off and fails to is part of the Batman origin. You could even say that Thomas's failure to stop a man with the gun is what subconsciously pushes Bruce into training himself to become one of the greatest martial artists ever.

I think Burton's take is still the most haunting, due to the score and hollow/echo-y sound effects. And Nolan's has a bit more emotional impact on the simple fact that we got to spend some time with Thomas Wayne before he died. But Snyder's take is, hands down, the most comic book faithful.

Your avatar makes the Burton one that much more haunting lol.

I've only read TDKR once and that's been over a year so some things are fuzzy, wasn't the gun going off and breaking Martha's necklace from that too?

Quote from: BatmAngelus on Wed, 30 Mar  2016, 04:46I'm gonna defend the film on one criticism I'm seeing pop up, which is that Thomas Wayne's character was somehow altered into being reckless and idiotic when trying to fight Joe Chill in the opening flashback scene.

Perhaps people are used to the more pacifistic Thomas Wayne that we saw in 1989 and in Batman Begins, but this moment with Thomas is actually directly out of the comics.

Snyder directly lifted the image of Thomas Wayne's fist out of The Dark Knight Returns.

This isn't unique to TDKR either, though.

If you look at the very first take on the origin of Batman in 1939, Thomas Wayne charges at the mugger to try to get him to leave Martha alone. The fact that Thomas attempts to fight him off and fails to is part of the Batman origin. You could even say that Thomas's failure to stop a man with the gun is what subconsciously pushes Bruce into training himself to become one of the greatest martial artists ever.

I think Burton's take is still the most haunting, due to the score and hollow/echo-y sound effects. And Nolan's has a bit more emotional impact on the simple fact that we got to spend some time with Thomas Wayne before he died. But Snyder's take is, hands down, the most comic book faithful.
I think there's a difference in trying to stop someone from hurting your wife and randomly trying to punch a guy pointing a gun at you. It does make him seem kinda stupid though to me, whether from TDKReturns or not. Have a very great day!

God bless you! God bless everyone!

I fail to see how Thomas was "randomly trying to punch a guy pointing a gun at him." The mugger was threatening him and his family with that gun and he was trying to defend them. In all versions of the story, Thomas Wayne attempts to leap into action once the mugger threatens his loved ones and he dies when trying to defend his family.

QuoteI've only read TDKR once and that's been over a year so some things are fuzzy, wasn't the gun going off and breaking Martha's necklace from that too?
Yep, not to mention the use of the Mark of Zorro, Thomas Wayne having a mustache, Bruce wearing more casual clothes, the closeups of the gun going off when shooting Thomas, and the whole scene being dialogue-less.
That awkward moment when you remember the only Batman who's never killed is George Clooney...

Thought so, thanks hun. It was so eerie and frightening even though of course you know what happens. It was amazingly well done.