#BvS SPOILER THREAD

[Dagenspear]

So what if I did?

Mate, if you really don't like my opinions and what I say, ignore me. I told you that seven months ago anyway.

Here - I'll be generous and give you these steps to add me to your ignore list so you'll never have to read my comments whenever you log onto the forum ever again:

• Click on your screen name to open your profile summary.
• Under Modify Profile, click on the Buddies/Ignore List link.
• Click on the Edit Ignore List button, and underneath where it says Add to Ignore List, type in The Laughing Fish in the Member: text-field.
• Finally, click on the Add button - and voila! You've blocked all of my comments from appearing on your screen forever! It's awesome, isn't it? I should know, I just added you to my ignore list as well. Have a very nice day, and God bless!

Grazie Dio! Grazie tutti!

Why would I ignore? That wouldn't be very nice, for either of us. But my statement was in connection to someone mocking what I say. It wasn't about you really. I'm very sorry for the misunderstanding. Thank you very much! Have a very great day!

God bless you! God bless everyone!

[Catwoman]

Mate, if you really don't like my opinions and what I say, ignore me. I told you that seven months ago anyway.

Here - I'll be generous and give you these steps to add me to your ignore list so you'll never have to read my comments whenever you log onto the forum ever again:

• Click on your screen name to open your profile summary.
• Under Modify Profile, click on the Buddies/Ignore List link.
• Click on the Edit Ignore List button, and underneath where it says Add to Ignore List, type in The Laughing Fish in the Member: text-field.
• Finally, click on the Add button - and voila! You've blocked all of my comments from appearing on your screen forever! It's awesome, isn't it? I should know, I just added you to my ignore list as well. Have a very nice day, and God bless!

Grazie Dio! Grazie tutti!

About two years late with that info. My warn level would probably be 15% instead of 85% lol

[Silver Nemesis]

Well I made my contribution to the box office and saw this beast on Sunday afternoon. I'm not going to write a lengthy review or anything, but here's a brief summary of some of my initial thoughts.

Objectively speaking, the film is far from perfect and I can see why the critics have taken issue with it. I think it's a little overstuffed and perhaps tries to do a bit too much. There are some structural problems too; it's very disjointed, there's some sloppy editing, and the intercutting between parallel narratives isn't always as smooth as it needed to be. I think insularity is also an issue. They weren't kidding when they said it was made for the fans, but I think that's one of the things that's perhaps alienated the wider audience who aren't familiar with the comics.

But overall... Honestly? I actually really enjoyed it. Much more than I thought I would.

Batfleck is awesome. I loved the scenes with him and Jeremy Irons and I'm looking forward to seeing them both return in the solo Batman film.

I liked Cavill's Superman a lot more in this one too. I was concerned when I heard there was a scene where he slams a terrorist through a concrete wall. But having seen it, he clearly states in a later scene that he didn't kill any of them. So it didn't bother me. I loved all the montage scenes of Superman saving people across the globe. And it's the first Superman film since 1980 to adapt a villain from the comics besides Lex and Zod! I think he's still a bit too mopey, but I can't deny I had a lump in my throat when he died at the end. 

I've got plenty more things to say about it, both good and bad. But for now I just wanted to quickly share my initial reactions. Would I recommend this film to casual cinemagoers who aren't familiar with the comics? To be honest, probably not. Would I recommend it to comic fans? Absolutely. You may not like it, but you should see it at least once and make up your own mind. I'm glad I did. Maybe it's because my expectations weren't as high as everyone else's, but I didn't think it was anywhere near as bad as some people are making it out to be.

Is it deeply flawed? Yes, I think it is. Is it completely devoid of merit? Not by a long shot.

Anyway those are my thoughts. I've begun work on the comic analysis, and hopefully BatmAngelus and myself will have it finished before too long. It might take a while though, as there are a LOT of comic references in this film. But if you're a Batman fan and you haven't seen it yet, give it a try. Trust me, I'm Zack Snyder's harshest critic, but this is nowhere near as bad as some people are saying.

[Travesty]

Good to hear that you enjoyed it.

[Grissom]

Nice review. I thoroughly enjoyed it, as well as the almost packed theatre I saw it in. Not only did I personally enjoy the film right up to the very end but the audience clapped and cheered in certain scenes (seeing Aquaman, Wonder Woman appearance, Doomsday fight etc) and also got very quiet in those emotional, somber scenes. When Lex is walking down the corridor and his musical theme is playing, a few people exclaimed at how awesome it was. It is a true introduction to as major villain. I actually liked Lex Luthor in this film a bit more than I thought I would. You could see the manic psychopath/sociopath and megalomaniac that he is and also is becoming.

I'm thankful for DC's and WB's vision of their characters and wholeheartedly looking forward to Justice League.

[eledoremassis02]

Just came back from seeing it (after trying to for 2 weeks!) and I enjoyed it much more than I thought I would. I was very disjointed but over all enjoyable.

I really liked Ben Affleck as Batman and I am looking forward to seeing more of him. Michael Keaton's batman I feel is more internal where Affleck is much more external but I still think Michael Keaton is the definitive Batman for me. I do like seeing a Batman kill again and wasnt bothered by him using guns. I did like (what I suppose was a homage?) when Batman shot the guy though the shoulder with his spear gun!

I liked Superman in this and I think they gave him alot to work with (I got a Spider-man 2 vibe with his arch. Wonder Woman was also a surprise because I was not looking forward to the choice at all.

Overall I'd put this under the Burton films but somewhere in bewteen Batman Forever and Begins (Im not much of a TDK fan for DKR)

[The Laughing Fish]

I thought it would be a good time to ask what are everybody else's favourite scenes in the movie?

I'll start with my own list:

• The opening montage where Bruce witnesses his parents getting murdered and falling into the cave was a great new interpretation to his backstory - and the most comic accurate to date. Bruce getting lifted up back on the ground by the bats in the end is inspiring stuff I reckon - I don't care if anybody else finds it "cheesy".
• Bruce witnessing the Battle of Metropolis and feeling angry and powerless over the situation. The part where he saves the girl and learns her mother was killed in the building is tragic.
• The montage of Superman's rescue around the world while media personalities debate his presence. My only complaint is I wish we saw more of Superman's rescue.
• The Batmobile chase was great. I pity anyone who complains about this scene because "it relies too much on CGI".
• The Martha Kent rescue scene. Need I say more? People might complain Batman said it so soon after his battle with Superman, but him telling Martha "I'm a friend of your son" is a great way to soothe her nerves and outline the realization for once and for all Supes is not the enemy.
• Despite everything that Lex did to him, Superman saves him by laying the first punch on Doomsday. If that doesn't scream Superman to you, then nothing will.
• Superman's sacrifice to stop Doomsday was a great ending, the best I've seen in a comic book movie for a while. I have my gripes with him in this movie, but the ending works for me, and it was the best way to get the Justice League to form and carry on his legacy.

[The Dark Knight]

I'll get something together later in the week. But in terms of ranking the films, BR and B89 remain my two favourites. With BvS taking third spot, right on their heels. I think Affleck is the best Batman so far, but the nostalgic power of Keaton is just too great to fully overcome. I'm happy with how the future looks with Affleck at the helm, because as stated in the past, it's reminiscent of what we had with Burton.

[riddler]

This is one of the rare films i liked the dream sequences. Normally I find them to be lazy writing for films to put scenes they want into the feature without tying them into the plot but here it worked as Bruce was having nightmares about Kent and showed some of his Fears may have been unvalidated and based merely on 'gut feelings'.

I especially liked the dream of Batman using guns. It was a way to show what Bats using guns would look like without actually have him do it. Interesting enough he was swinging with his other hand rather than using the gun.

As far as ranking the films go; IMO this one falls behind the dark knight and the original batman just ahead of Batman forever on my scale.

[Azrael]

I would watch an entire movie set in the Knightmare universe, loved it. I don't know if it's me, the sound of Batman's voice when he says "Did you get it? The rock" is different (much deeper) compared to the rest of the film.