Possible Heart of Ice reference

[The Laughing Fish]

Shortly before Mr. Freeze was freed from Arkham Asylum by Poison Ivy and Bane, we see him inventing a wind-up ornament modeled after his wife. This is could be a reference to the wind-up Cinderella toy in the BTAS episode Heart of Ice.



It's perhaps the only real poignant moment for Freeze in this movie.

[The Laughing Fish]

I didn't realize that the link below already covered this. Oh well.

http://www.batman-online.com/forum/index.php?topic=2625.0

[Dagenspear]

I was just thinking about this the other day when me and my little brother watched Heart Of Ice. I always liked that scene. Arnold does really well in that scene. The Lord works in mysterious ways, huh?

God bless you all! God bless everyone!

[Edd Grayson]

Shortly before Mr. Freeze was freed from Arkham Asylum by Poison Ivy and Bane, we see him inventing a wind-up ornament modeled after his wife. This is could be a reference to the wind-up Cinderella toy in the BTAS episode Heart of Ice.



It's perhaps the only real poignant moment for Freeze in this movie.

I agree. I noticed that before.

[BatmAngelus]

Yep. Mr. Freeze's origin in B&R is pretty much right out of Heart of Ice, save for Ferris Boyle's involvement.

Ironically, for a film that's constantly panned by comic fans, Mr. Freeze's origin story is probably more faithful to the comic origin than most of the other Batman movie villains' from B89 to present.

[johnnygobbs]

Yep. Mr. Freeze's origin in B&R is pretty much right out of Heart of Ice, save for Ferris Boyle's involvement.

Ironically, for a film that's constantly panned by comic fans, Mr. Freeze's origin story is probably more faithful to the comic origin than most of the other Batman movie villains' from B89 to present.

This is very true.  It's pretty clear that Schumacher adapted Freeze's origin straight from "Heart of Ice" and that is now pretty much the canonical version, save for the New 52 (which somewhat subverts this particular origin).

I certainly have no problem with the way Schumacher conceived Mr Freeze in Batman & Robin; I even have no problem with the casting of Schwarzenegger as I've always thought of Freeze as having a Scandinavian/Northern European origin, and although Arnie is Austrian he can easily pass as Swedish or Nordic.  I also think the scene where he is watching home movies of Nora and himself in happier times starts out quite touchingly, until one of Freeze's henchmen appears and Arnie makes a glib wisecrack: "I hate it when somebody interrupts the movie".

Basically it was the tone that Schumacher and his collaborators got totally and utterly wrong; not the story or conception of the characters (even if I'd have preferred Barbara to be Gordon's daughter/adopted daughter rather than Alfred's niece).

[Edd Grayson]

I think it was the constant quips that perphaps made some viewers forget that the character's origin and motives were well adapted.

[The Laughing Fish]

Yep. Mr. Freeze's origin in B&R is pretty much right out of Heart of Ice, save for Ferris Boyle's involvement.

Ironically, for a film that's constantly panned by comic fans, Mr. Freeze's origin story is probably more faithful to the comic origin than most of the other Batman movie villains' from B89 to present.

Don't forget about Two-Face's backstory in BF.

[johnnygobbs]

Don't forget about Two-Face's backstory in BF.

True, but it was so brief it barely counts.

[BatmAngelus]

Yep. Mr. Freeze's origin in B&R is pretty much right out of Heart of Ice, save for Ferris Boyle's involvement.

Ironically, for a film that's constantly panned by comic fans, Mr. Freeze's origin story is probably more faithful to the comic origin than most of the other Batman movie villains' from B89 to present.

Don't forget about Two-Face's backstory in BF.

Yep, that's why I said most. In fact, Schumacher had the most faithful villain origins out of any of the other directors.