New Trailer Out

[Catwoman]

Isn't Eisenberg supposed to be playing Lex Jr? Son of THE Lex Luthor? I thought that was announced a while back?

[Dagenspear]

If we want to complain about recklessness, then the same thing can always be said about Nolan's Batman, especially his incompetent handling of the no kill policy and framing himself for crimes that did more harm than good to the city.

There wasn't an incompetent handling of the rule. Him framing himself actually did a lot of good, but it allowed another bad thing to come into play. But that wasn't exactly something someone could automatically forsee.

If you don't mind me asking, how would you prefer Batman and Superman debut in a film together? I believe they went for the best approach. Batman tends to be more interesting as a character when he's weary and cynical of others, and he's certainly going to be wary of Superman following MOS. The best comics between the two tend to have contrasting ideas and philosophies, and they clash over them before putting their differences. How the conflict between the two gets resolved in the film is going to be interesting. Just hope it doesn't feel contrived.

I would have preferred they both be close to the same age, wary of eachother, but forced to work together the whole movie. Them fighting is silly to me. The drama of their fight in TDKReturns is that they are friends. That isn't in this.

God bless you! God bless everyone!

[Edd Grayson]

Isn't Eisenberg supposed to be playing Lex Jr? Son of THE Lex Luthor? I thought that was announced a while back?

Even so Catwoman, I have doubts about him being a good villain. I just don't think he's right for this part, no matter if it's Luthor or his son.

[The Dark Knight]

All of this is just down to preference. It doesn't make anything bad.

[Edd Grayson]

Yes, you're right Dark Knight.  But if I think it's bad, then I won't enjoy the film as much. That's the problem.

[The Dark Knight]

It's all a matter of perspective. I also get the feeling some people are setting themselves up to be disappointed.

[Edd Grayson]

Don't get me wrong, I won't go into the movie with "Eisenberg will suck!" in mind. I hope he won't. But what I've seen so far does not convince me.

[The Joker]

Interesting chatter on Lex Luthor around here as of late. Though at the same time, quite baffling as well. As it seems fairly obvious that the indifferent/unimpressed opinions of Eisenberg's Lex Luthor is that of the notion of how he's portrayed rather than any sort of context the trailer's have provided thus far. We've already seen clips of Eisenberg acting nefariously in the trailers. That's nothing new. Only now,, we've also seen Eisenberg do his best Conan O'Brien impression at a party (Conan really should do a skit of that scene for his show. He would OWN it!). Does that mean everyone's having a knee jerk reaction and thinking he's going to come across like that way thru the entire film? Of course not. That's too much of a generalization. We've already been shown enough footage that that's not going to happen. It really boils down to it being a really simple case of that particular choice of portraying Lex as unsatisfying or disappointing. Choose your poison.

The concept of framing Lex as an unlikable tech magnate by way of the new Silicon Valley magnates, sort of a comment on the tech industry and all that IS a different slant (though if you ask Hollywood, Trump would be seen as a much more plausible threat to a civil society than Zuckerbergs), Eisenberg's portrayal, thus far, comes across with zero gravitas, which I don't find it super-appealing. Hasn't worked very well with cinematic Victor Von Dooms so far, not convinced it'll work here either.

[Edd Grayson]

Interesting chatter on Lex Luthor around here as of late. Though at the same time, quite baffling as well. As it seems fairly obvious that the indifferent/unimpressed opinions of Eisenberg's Lex Luthor is that of the notion of how he's portrayed rather than any sort of context the trailer's have provided thus far. We've already seen clips of Eisenberg acting nefariously in the trailers. That's nothing new. Only now,, we've also seen Eisenberg do his best Conan O'Brien impression at a party (Conan really should do a skit of that scene for his show. He would OWN it!). Does that mean everyone's having a knee jerk reaction and thinking he's going to come across like that way thru the entire film? Of course not. That's too much of a generalization. We've already been shown enough footage that that's not going to happen. It really boils down to it being a really simple case of that particular choice of portraying Lex as unsatisfying or disappointing. Choose your poison.

The concept of framing Lex as an unlikable tech magnate by way of the new Silicon Valley magnates, sort of a comment on the tech industry and all that IS a different slant (though if you ask Hollywood, Trump would be seen as a much more plausible threat to a civil society than Zuckerbergs), Eisenberg's portrayal, thus far, comes across with zero gravitas, which I don't find it super-appealing. Hasn't worked very well with cinematic Victor Von Dooms so far, not convinced it'll work here either.

Very good post in my opinion. We'll see what the finished film's Luthor looks like.

[johnnygobbs]

The concept of framing Lex as an unlikable tech magnate by way of the new Silicon Valley magnates, sort of a comment on the tech industry and all that IS a different slant (though if you ask Hollywood, Trump would be seen as a much more plausible threat to a civil society than Zuckerbergs), Eisenberg's portrayal, thus far, comes across with zero gravitas, which I don't find it super-appealing. Hasn't worked very well with cinematic Victor Von Dooms so far, not convinced it'll work here either.

I've made exactly the same point in bold in very robust, substantive terms on other forums.

Unfortunately, I had to restrain myself from making that point here, even though it is entirely in the context of a Batman movie and relates to creative choices (see and contrast/compare Trump's attitude to illegal aliens and building a wall, with Lex Luthor's similar extreme measures for tackling the 'illegal alien' problem), because of this site's politics embargo and the risk of offending certain posters on this site.

As a side-point, it's quite telling that some of the defenders of the new version of Luthor (i.e. the Zuckerberg-alike Luthor) are exactly the same type of people who would probably take offence at a more 'Trump-like' Luthor.